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bigjon on 02 October 2008

I think Biden won if it was judge like a competition. She dodge questions.

However, after the Prez debate I realized that is not how people look at it. She came across as strong, knowledgable, and really made all the people who were trashing her interviews look stupid. I think Biden wins the debate, but McCain sees a modest 2-3 point bump in the polls. Why? I think alot of the people who wanted to like Palin (the key is wanted to) but had lost faith have plenty to jump back on the bandwagon with. So basically Palin did alot to regain lost support. The people who want to hate will find something I am sure.

I had to laugh everytime Biden brought up Scanton... He just does it so much. It is because Obama's Religion and Guns remarks he made about Scranton.



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vlad321 on 02 October 2008

It's a team of mavericks!



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The Ghost of RubangB on 02 October 2008

SARAH PALIN PUTS THE BUZZ INTO BUZZWORDS.

BIDEN/PALIN 08/12!



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vlad321 on 02 October 2008

People made the mistake of making maverick a drinking word....



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gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

akuma587 on 02 October 2008
vlad321 said:
People made the mistake of making maverick a drinking word....

Amen...



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psrock on 02 October 2008

Strong? She looked scared. The only reason she survived it is because the moderator didnt follow up on any of the questions she avoided because she didnt know the answers.



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Sam Yikin on 02 October 2008
bigjon said:
I think Biden won if it was judge like a competition. She dodge questions.

However, after the Prez debate I realized that is not how people look at it. She came across as strong, knowledgable, and really made all the people who were trashing her interviews look stupid. I think Biden wins the debate, but McCain sees a modest 2-3 point bump in the polls. Why? I think alot of the people who wanted to like Palin (the key is wanted to) but had lost faith have plenty to jump back on the bandwagon with. So basically Palin did alot to regain lost support. The people who want to hate will find something I am sure.

I had to laugh everytime Biden brought up Scanton... He just does it so much. It is because Obama's Religion and Guns remarks he made about Scranton.

 

@ last part: Because Palin never mentions her hometown. Ever.

It might be that people will see her question dodging as a sign of weakness. Also, I think Biden very effectively destroyed her on a number of issues and Americans will see that he is actually the stronger canidate, which will make them think twice about hopping back onto that bandwagon.



bigjon on 02 October 2008
Sam Yikin said:
bigjon said:
I think Biden won if it was judge like a competition. She dodge questions.

However, after the Prez debate I realized that is not how people look at it. She came across as strong, knowledgable, and really made all the people who were trashing her interviews look stupid. I think Biden wins the debate, but McCain sees a modest 2-3 point bump in the polls. Why? I think alot of the people who wanted to like Palin (the key is wanted to) but had lost faith have plenty to jump back on the bandwagon with. So basically Palin did alot to regain lost support. The people who want to hate will find something I am sure.

I had to laugh everytime Biden brought up Scanton... He just does it so much. It is because Obama's Religion and Guns remarks he made about Scranton.

 

@ last part: Because Palin never mentions her hometown. Ever.

It might be that people will see her question dodging as a sign of weakness. Also, I think Biden very effectively destroyed her on a number of issues and Americans will see that he is actually the stronger canidate, which will make them think twice about hopping back onto that bandwagon.

Umm, I would be stupid to say that Palin was more "qualified" than Biden. Comparing her to Obama is so much better. Biden has been a US Senator since like 1972. Everyone knows he knows more than her. People like her because she is an outsider, and they don't trust someone who has been sitten around there for 35 years to do that. The reason they always bring up McCains maverick streak is so people don't say the same about McCain. By being a Maverick he can be old and still for change (at least that is what they hope to sell). Also Biden's "destroying" had more to do with him talking about things McCain voted on like 15 years ago... The only thing I thought he destroyed her on was the McCain was wrong about Iraq argument. She did good to argue the differences between Obama and Biden, but she could have made it more of a non issue is she would have said something like "hindsight is 20/20, we need to learn from our mistakes"

She did look strong, and you are attacking her for being nervous!! You are digging pretty deep there. She like she said has only been on the national scene for 5 weeks, and OVER 50 million people were prolly watching her. Also, she did not look very nervous. The only time I noticed it was in the beginning.

It makes more sense for Palin to mention her hometown since she was the MAYOR there. Biden is doing it as pandering to PA. Did he even grow up there? Or was he just born there.

Also, I kinda like Biden. yea he comes across as an angry man, but oh, well. If the ticket were Biden - Obama, I would not be repulsed by it. But I do like Palin more than Biden nonetheless.

 



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Sam Yikin on 02 October 2008
bigjon said:
Sam Yikin said:
bigjon said:
I think Biden won if it was judge like a competition. She dodge questions.

However, after the Prez debate I realized that is not how people look at it. She came across as strong, knowledgable, and really made all the people who were trashing her interviews look stupid. I think Biden wins the debate, but McCain sees a modest 2-3 point bump in the polls. Why? I think alot of the people who wanted to like Palin (the key is wanted to) but had lost faith have plenty to jump back on the bandwagon with. So basically Palin did alot to regain lost support. The people who want to hate will find something I am sure.

I had to laugh everytime Biden brought up Scanton... He just does it so much. It is because Obama's Religion and Guns remarks he made about Scranton.

 

@ last part: Because Palin never mentions her hometown. Ever.

It might be that people will see her question dodging as a sign of weakness. Also, I think Biden very effectively destroyed her on a number of issues and Americans will see that he is actually the stronger canidate, which will make them think twice about hopping back onto that bandwagon.

Umm, I would be stupid to say that Palin was more "qualified" than Biden. Comparing her to Obama is so much better. Biden has been a US Senator since like 1972. Everyone knows he knows more than her. People like her because she is an outsider, and they don't trust someone who has been sitten around there for 35 years to do that. The reason they always bring up McCains maverick streak is so people don't say the same about McCain. By being a Maverick he can be old and still for change (at least that is what they hope to sell). Also Biden's "destroying" had more to do with him talking about things McCain voted on like 15 years ago... The only thing I thought he destroyed her on was the McCain was wrong about Iraq argument. She did good to argue the differences between Obama and Biden, but she could have made it more of a non issue is she would have said something like "hindsight is 20/20, we need to learn from our mistakes"

She did look strong, and you are attacking her for being nervous!! You are digging pretty deep there. She like she said has only been on the national scene for 5 weeks, and OVER 50 million people were prolly watching her. Also, she did not look very nervous. The only time I noticed it was in the beginning.

It makes more sense for Palin to mention her hometown since she was the MAYOR there. Biden is doing it as pandering to PA. Did he even grow up there? Or was he just born there.

Also, I kinda like Biden. yea he comes across as an angry man, but oh, well. If the ticket were Biden - Obama, I would not be repulsed by it. But I do like Palin more than Biden nonetheless.

 

It simply seemed to me that Biden countered all of her arguments very effectively. I'm not sure about the 15 years ago part but to most viewers it seemed like he did a great job of hitting McCain on many issues, including Iraq.

I'll agree with you that she seemed strong, at least in appearance. I didn't detect any nervousness in her or her manner of speaking. That said, I think people will really see her question dodging as a sign of her weakness on knowledge- on the issues.

I'd also expect a Obama-Palin debate to go much the same way. While neither of them are as experienced as their equivalent on the other side, Obama clearly has a better grasp of the problems facing our country today.



Sam Yikin on 02 October 2008

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