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slimeattack on 04 October 2008

Apple seems to be doing everything they can to promote piracy. I wanted to play a movie I legally own, and it didn't work because of the region code. I downloaded the movie from a torrent site - works perfectly.



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goddog on 04 October 2008
slimeattack said:
Apple seems to be doing everything they can to promote piracy. I wanted to play a movie I legally own, and it didn't work because of the region code. I downloaded the movie from a torrent site - works perfectly.

 

would that not have happened on any region locked dvd player (aka almost all of them)



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Bitmap Frogs on 04 October 2008
disolitude said:

So Tom says PC costs as much as mac....sure...I do not wish to argue anymore...not because I think you are right as I know you are not. But because I have to go play Silent Hill...

 

 

Let's see - you make a big stink in this thread over the supposed overpricing on macs and talk big about how pc's are much better value. You are then promptly presented with a link to one of the oldest, most senior pc hardware websites (mind you, it's not like we are linking a mac site) proving that the Mac Pro is only overpriced by 5.67$. By the way, the site is called Tom's hardware because when it started back in the 90's it was only Tom writing content but these days they got a full editorial staff dedicated to the most extreme of pc geekdom. Amongst their feats they've rigged pc's with nitrogen cooling for extreme overclocking.

Your reaction? "I'm gonna go play Silent Hill" followed by spouting yet another round of irrational apple-bashing memes.

In other words, you got owned - hardcore. But you also showed us an interesting bit about yourself - your total dismissal for any kind of rational argument and your irrational hate towards apple and the products they sell.

@dmg6780: Spore runs natively on Macs without virtualization or booting into windows. There's a big case to be made about lack of gaming support, but geebus at least check your facts and don't use as examples games that have mac versions.

 





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Alby_da_Wolf on 04 October 2008

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disolitude on 04 October 2008
goddog said:
disolitude said:
goddog said:

 

 

thats kind of funny since i build and maintain my own computers, flash my macs to overclock, or use modded fx cards, ive upgraded and changed the guts on quite a few PM, MP and little MM. also work on pcs, its quite a fun hobby, and i know many mac useres who do this, even ones who build form basic parts to mac their own mac, something i plan on doing this winter as a project and your selling bullshit on your web advertising, outside of explorer the web is designed to be platform agnostic, and your company would not be the largest if it did not test ads out on other browsers, and platforms customers would not stand for segments they sell to to not be covered, like you i have worked in that industry and only the people who did not know what they were doing, or were so low on the neccisary persons pole that we never even saw them worked like you do, also how have you not been replaced? most flash projects designers bundle in fonts to work on all platforms, maybe your copany just enjoys living 10 years in the past

Actually dude, you pretending to know what i was talking about is the only bullshit around. You will see lots of ads you your Mac, however they will be simple flash ads or gifs. What you won't see too much is top layer ads, or vokens, or leaderboard expanding ads etc...go do some research on what those are and then come back and say something intelligent.

When I get an ad that is an expanding bigbox for example...I will set it live for all platforms and browsers. As soon as someone emails me from the sites and says "this doesn't work on a mac". the ad gets targeted to windows only platform. This happens about 30% of the time with complex flash ads. So you mac users will see a nice gif banner instead... Why would we bother wasting resources and testing ads for less than 10% of the audience? We use googles Dart doubleclick ad servers...let them test it on their time.

Also, while you are right that they send all fonts when they send creative, I've had instances where a creative company sends me flash files without PC fonts and I had to refuse them. We dont design the creative...so we do run in to companies that are livng 10 years in the past...and don't realize that mac fonts are useless in the ad serving world.

Only reason i mentioned this is to show that while you can design flash ads on a mac all you want...they must be PC ready.

 

saddlt your wrong i see all of that the opening ad for this site is expanding bigbox on safari ass, i know what im talking about, side note flash is platform agnostic too if exported right, and not incompetently, you dont need to set pc fonts it will do it on its own. and good design firms would have tested long before it gets to you, honestly you must work with some hacks

 

also why sell it for cheap mac laptops go for close to full price up to 2 years out even with problems? are you bad at using ebay too, how do you keep your job...? honestly most of the stuff you talk about i learned in highschool, much less college working for my degree 

1. I never said I work for a design agency. Design agencies work for me...talk to them.

2. Flash is not platform diagnostic. If letters are broken apart when published, sure the FLA will open in pc or mac versions of Adobe Flash no problem, without proper fonts...but sadly that adds to the size of the file so rarely do they get broken apart. If you knew anything about IAB advertising standards you would know that a flash banner can't be over 40K to appear on a major site like MSNBC or IGN.

3.  The way you structure your sentances and argumens I sincerely doubt you went to highschool, let alone college.

 



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disolitude on 04 October 2008
Bitmap Frogs said:
disolitude said:

So Tom says PC costs as much as mac....sure...I do not wish to argue anymore...not because I think you are right as I know you are not. But because I have to go play Silent Hill...

 

 

Let's see - you make a big stink in this thread over the supposed overpricing on macs and talk big about how pc's are much better value. You are then promptly presented with a link to one of the oldest, most senior pc hardware websites (mind you, it's not like we are linking a mac site) proving that the Mac Pro is only overpriced by 5.67$. By the way, the site is called Tom's hardware because when it started back in the 90's it was only Tom writing content but these days they got a full editorial staff dedicated to the most extreme of pc geekdom. Amongst their feats they've rigged pc's with nitrogen cooling for extreme overclocking.

Your reaction? "I'm gonna go play Silent Hill" followed by spouting yet another round of irrational apple-bashing memes.

In other words, you got owned - hardcore. But you also showed us an interesting bit about yourself - your total dismissal for any kind of rational argument and your irrational hate towards apple and the products they sell.

@dmg6780: Spore runs natively on Macs without virtualization or booting into windows. There's a big case to be made about lack of gaming support, but geebus at least check your facts and don't use as examples games that have mac versions.

 

Yes you win. Every mac is $5.67 more than an equivalent PC...how could I have been so blind?

 



Plaupius on 04 October 2008
disolitude said:
Plaupius said:
 

When was it that you installed XP on your Mac? I'm just asking because bootcamp was in beta for quite some time before becoming a part of the OS X install, maybe that had something to do with the bugs and glitches you experienced? Anyway, I'd like to think that I'm a fan of Apple, but I don't pretend that Apple's shit doesn't stink. I know there are some seriously irritating, rabid Apple fanboys roaming the web, but quite frankly everybody who I know who uses Macs is a level headed person. They have all come from using Windows, and they all like using their Macs a lot better, as do I. Apple maintains a tighter control of their platform than MS, and it has both pros and cons, but for me the overall better user experience is well worth the price premium. And, judging from the sales numbers, an increasing number of people are thinking the same.

 

 I got my mac in Jan 2007. It was pretty simliar to the base model they have now except it had 512 of ram...I cant remember if bootcamp was in beta or not...I bought it with the idea of installing windows but once I foudn out that the blackberry desktop manager i was using did not work with mac osx and I had to get windows on there fast.

Once windows crashed I kinda gave up and got a PC laptop. I had the mac stored away for a bit without using it...and eventually this year I sold it for pretty cheap since DVD reader had issues with ejecting disks.

Never in all of this did I become an anti apple person...I still own an ipod video despite Itunes being a horrid syncing program and I understand that technology isn't perfect so what happened to my laptop isn't Apples fault. But I definetly am in the PC camp if I am asked to choose.

Ok, at that time BootCamp was still in beta, it actually got a proper release with OS X 10.5, before that it was considered beta. Maybe that amounted to some of the problems you experienced, and/or maybe you had some hardware issue. Macs are pretty high quality overall, but as with all hw nowadays, they have their share of issues, some of which can cause unstable behaviour.

I've never used iTunes on Windows, but I keep hearing it's an abomination. What exactly is so bad about it? The OS X version doesn't seem too bad, I actually like it, so I'm curious to know what they did wrong with the Windows version.



dgm6780 on 04 October 2008

i mentioned those games because he did.

and if Tom's said mac book pro over priced only $5 vs a Windows PC - I have lost a lot of respect for Toms. Thats very far from true.



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famousringo on 04 October 2008
Plaupius said:

Ok, at that time BootCamp was still in beta, it actually got a proper release with OS X 10.5, before that it was considered beta. Maybe that amounted to some of the problems you experienced, and/or maybe you had some hardware issue. Macs are pretty high quality overall, but as with all hw nowadays, they have their share of issues, some of which can cause unstable behaviour.

I've never used iTunes on Windows, but I keep hearing it's an abomination. What exactly is so bad about it? The OS X version doesn't seem too bad, I actually like it, so I'm curious to know what they did wrong with the Windows version.

 

I'm not a windows user, but from what I understand, iTunes becomes the default program for any music files on your system without asking you and Apple's auto-update program (which comes with any Apple software on Windows) gets in your face and tries to get you to download Safari and other Apple software.

I think that iTunes is actually one of the better-behaved Apple Windows programs. I've had a lousy time trying to get Quicktime to work on a Windows machine. It's glitchy as hell.

Basically Apple software is just as lousy on the Windows platform as Microsoft software is on the Mac platform, and maybe even a little worse.



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