No, I'm not trying to troll. I am trying to figure out the motives why the people have that many games. I dont rember their names becuase I read that around a month ago, and I posted this before going to bed. I also am not going to spend the 4+ hours it would take for me to track down the names of the people that said they have that many. I dont know if they were lying or not. I've seen 2-3 people mention 20+ and at least 1 say 30+. And there's alot that say ~10. My point on this is, how many people out there are buying that many games? And why are there people buying thousands of dollars of games for that console, yet, for the PS3, and 360, very few people have more than 5+ games. (And now I say alot of people have 10-15 for the 360 because it's been out so long, and has ALOT of great games)

I am not trolling on this. I am trying to figure out why people buy the 'crap' games. I'm not calling them crap games. I'm talking about the games  that get below a 60 on reviews. To have 30+ Wii games you must have at least 5-10 of those. Why would you spend 500-ish on games that are basically labled 'This game sucks, at what it is meant to be'

Because the PS3 has it's share of crappy games too. Spiderman3 anyone? I got a buddy on my buddy list who plays these games all the time, but the thing is he rents them. So I know he dosent own 30 PS3 games. He owns like 3 and rents all the others just to play them.

I have around 40 people on my buddy list on my PS3, and I watch what everyone does/plays. 95% of peple play, Motorstorm, Resistance, Darkness, RSV, SuperStarDustHD.

Maybe one every few days I see someone playing something else.

I am just trying to figure out why, people are spending thousands of dollars on games for the Wii? And if people are buying thousands of dollars of great games for the Wii, Why the attach rates are SO LOW.

I wanted to spawn a discussion like MrStickBall is going on about, and try to not get trolled. I would say I succeded other than you saying I am trolling, I did a good job about getting the discussion I wanted going, without being labled troll. I have tried to create threads like this and they have always ended in hate fests.

I will defend this arguement the way you always defend the PS3 sucking, and the Wii rocking. This site is about sales. If you look at the Wii in any way, it's attach rates are LOW. In any way. And if you remove the 'bundle' games that you get for free/next to free in NA. The attach rates are abysmal. Either way, the attach rates are Bad. If people are buying that many Wii games, Why are the attach rates so low?

Also, the guy never specified if they were all big purchaes, or included VC. But I think he implied they were full purchaces. 

Not sure if it helps you at all Kwaad but I, for instance, bought Bust-A-Move bash even though it got a lot of negative press.

Reviews said it was mainly for die hard Bust-A-Move fans, so I bought it. Also it was rather cheap only costing $35 new.

Well I took a chance and boy did they screw up a incredibly simple, yet fun game. The arcade version of this game from like ten years ago puts this thing to shame big time.

At any rate, perhaps many people are testing the waters and taking chances at games, regardless of the reviews. Many of my favorite games in the past have often been overlooked or even have gotten mediocre scores in reviews.

Granted, this is possibly only a small element of the reasons behind the answer to your question. I just haven't seen is voiced heavily in this discussion yet.

I think somebody voiced it before, is people counting their VC games? Because I just wanted to say that I remeber people metion that they have 20+ Wii games. I must agree with Kwaad, why?

I never said the games were selling poor, stop twisting my words. I merely said the attach ratios are not that great geared toward full-price games.

There are, as stated, PLENTY of GREAT examples of strong-selling Wii games such as Zelda TP, SPM and MP8. Those are obvious succuesses, as well as Rayman and Red Steel.

But my whole issue is, again, that since the launch, the tier ratios haven't improved much in the US, nor Japan. Again, low attach rates due to low consumer demand can be very bad in the end, but I'm not saying "oh the Wii will always have this kind of ratio", because it's obvious it'll increase.

However, the Wii attach ratios need to start improving. Even adding Wii Sports/Play in, which we can always argue about, the attach ratios in the US are mediocre, and not improving, and are rather bad in Japan, and not improving yet (but that should change in the near future).

What I mean is this:

Dragon Quest Swords sells 1,000,000 units in Japan. Great succuess for DQS, right? Very much so. However, on average, due to the attach ratios, it means that DQS had great succuess, whereas about 5 other games did not, and that can be an issue.

Again, all one has to do is look at Japanese sales charts week in and week out and see what sales have typically done: the attach ratio every week that software isn't coming out that's major (like DQS), is around 1.3 software units per console. This isn't good, when again, 50% or more of those sales are Wii Sports/Play, leaving only an average of 0.7 (or around 50,000 units of software) to be split between 30 other Wii titles.

And thats why people that only have Wii Sports/Wii play becomes a huge non-issue with tier ratios, as they are only 2 games, and not the 50 others out there for the Wii.

Look at it this way: If Microsoft, or Square Enix decide to sell Halo 3, or Final Fantasy XIII at $34.99 USD, and sold tens of millions of copies, but comparible games sold.........250,000 copies of comparible games, would that be considered very good, and strong for the software library of the system?

Ok, this is a troll post, so I am hiding it. Please dont respond, and ignore it. This is humor, and is not meant seroiusly. Do not take this as bait, and please once agian DO NOT RESPOND to it. Thanks. Kwaad.

It depends on the console mrstickball. For Sony and Microsoft, that would be horrible. But since it is a nintendo game, on a nintendo console it is amazingly GREAT!

Mrstickball, the problem is that many of the games coming out on the Wii aren't of comparable quality but instead, are pretty bad. The ones that are of decent quality, do sell fairly well and thus, get pretty good attach ratios.

C'mon Kwaad. You know better than this. Just because you are saying something is a troll post, and then even hide it - doesn't excuse the fact that you are doing it.

If someone insulted you in the same way, would it still be an insult? Yes.

Consider this a warning.

You said this:

"So basically, my synopsis is that the Wii attach ratios are not very good in either country"

I suppose you didn't technically use the word "poor," so if you'd like to substitute in "not very good," that's fine -- but I didn't really twist your words very much there.

What's the ultimate source? Total software sales! Look at those again: the Wii has a much higher attach rate LTD than the PS3 does (over 33 percent higher), and has approximately the same attach rate LTD as the 360 in Japan (again, 8 percent lower). You're not seeing the forest through the trees. You can claim that each individual tree is not so great (weekly tier ratios) but then when looking at the whole forest (attach ratio for the entire lifespan of the Wii), the Wii is doing quite well!

American sales I'm simply going to have to set aside for the moment, because we clearly can't agree on the validity of Sports/Play. The only region that offers clear, definitive evidence is Japan, since we have total hardware and software sales to date. Simple, effective, and definitive calculations. And again, in that region -- the Wii isn't just doing well, it's doing great!

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16697

No jokes is one of the new rules... got it.

There should be ALOT more warnings going around then. I'll report every joke I see.

EDIT: Thanks for the warning as I didnt know jokes broke the rules.

EDIT2: This is in no way a joke. I am being serious. As jokes will get you banned. 

 The guys who own the W console made by N company are hardcore gamers that is why. They have a lot of other consoles also. A lot of people who own the P console could live with just only the double F game to play.