Thats bullshit. The Sony fanboys are selling whatever exclusive RPG's they have left as the best games ever. They downplayed Tales of Vesperia. Choose another game to try and be open minded about.

chill out, even if some of them do, you are not better creating flamebait calling them out to defend like they did something wrong.

versus will probably be one of the best JRPGs this generation and it doesn't matter in console its in its still Great.

Would Square-Enix come out and say a 10 million dollar game is a side project?

Bigger, better, or not, saying it's as big as FFXIII is the only thing marketing allows them to say. What, are they gonna come out and say, "It's a spinoff."

Now, I don't think it's a spinoff. I think it's probably a nearly equal production. I'm just saying, Square Enix marketing jargon is not proof.

That said, I'm awaiting XIII very much, and Verses is also on my radar, and a probable purchase.

We do not know much information about either game. The verdict is still out. Hopefully these two games will satisfy JRPG fans.
FF XIII = late 2009 to early 2010 launch.
FF XIII Versus = late 2010 launch.
Both games are a long way off.

Bah, I know what you say is possible, but it's very unlikely. Just judging from past FF numbered games, I'll probably love XIII beyond believe, while I did not really like Rogue Galaxy.

I'm the biggest ToV promoter on this forum(well one of the biggest) and I can tell you that I enjoyed most of the numbered FF games more than ToV(which I still rank amongst my favorite games in the genre despite that fact).

I think WKC looks good. However, so did IU. The reason WKC is so hyped, is because it's a PS3 exclusive, and PS3 fans always, without fail, overhype their exclusives. They don't overhype them beyond what a game deserves, but they do overhype them beyond what anyone should ever hype an unproven game. All big games on all systems are vastly overhyped, however, the PS3 exclusives seem to be the only group of games that are overhyped no matter what their size.

From LBP all the way down to Valkyria chronicles, every game that's on the PS3 and not on another console, has a slight to high level of overhype. Games that aren't out for years, have been hyped for months.

In truth, I blame the Sony and Square-Enix's method of propping up tentpole titles, and its leaking into mainstream gaming. Making big promises and not delivering a game for 2-3 years after said promises turn the game into a myth, rather than a game. When you talk about myths, you tend to get other games mixed up in them.

So yeah, WKC looks no better or worse than any of the other jrpg trailers I've seen, really. You can't tell by those trailers anyway. The Xenogears type knight transformations are interesting, but the game does contain a certain amount of overhyping, ie(It'll be the best jrpg ever, best jrpg this generation guranteed, ect) because it's a PS3 exclusive. If the game was on the 360, it would just be another title in a bullet list of jrpgs released on the console, with an asterik of "has potential" beside it.

You have to be careful when you choose your games based on their console, rather than their merit. Doesn't really matter though, you'll probably be happy either way. Game consoles are fun, afterall.

That's why I say I'm keeping an eye on verses. I'll have a new PS3 by then, hopefully slim.

Anyway, I'm prejudging FFXIII based on all the other games in the numbered FF series being absolutely amazing to me, myself and I.

After 13 entries, the chances of this one being mediocre as much lower than the chances of it being fantastic.

Not everyone is choosing WKC based on console, they are picking it based on developer and their history. The trailer is uninformative on the end product's quality true. But Level 5 has done fantastic work for a long time, and that is the reason I am excited for the title.

Did you think Rogue Galaxy was fantastic work, because I was vastly dissapointed in that game, and the developer. Dragon Quest VIII was also difficulty to love, though I did enjoy it.

However, I also wasn't too big on Layton, though I admit it's great for its genre.

I always feel that people fall for the stigma surrounding Level 5 and how univerally praised they are by the general gaming audience, while I feel that many people are often dissapointed in their games. For instance, despite grand reviews for Dark Cloud 2(which I liked) many people were dissapointed in the monotinous pacing and lack of character development in that game. The same held true for Rogue Galaxy, which might as well have not had a story. It was their last epic jrpg, that failed in the eyes of users.

Level 5 is a great developer. However, they are considering infalliable by the general audience despite several of their games missing the mark, where as other developers, like , Cing, iNiS, the Resident Evil team, Team Ninja, Vanilla Ware, Team Vesperia, Clover Studios(now owned by sega and renamed) are equally talented, but don't recieve the credit they deserve from the community at large.

Other developers can blow them off the map in consistancy, including most of the first party Nintendo and Sony studios.

It's like people ignore Level 5's rare less than stellar games, because they didn't play them, so they don't exist.

If you loved all of their "just ok" games, then yeah, you should be head over heels for WKC. If you think that a Level 5 game is gonna have much in common with other jrpgs, and it's just a more epic version, you're wrong, that's not gonna happen. WKC will be many things, and great is one of them. However, it almost certainly will not be what you expect, and in that sense, I imagine it will dissapoint a lot of people, and surprise a few as well(including reviewers, who love Level 5's mix of traditional style and modern conventions).

As you can see, I'm not half-assing my point on this one. I think it's fair, and I think the game will be great, but I think it's a mistake overhyping it just as it is with any game, and giving is prestige because of its developer isn't a free pass to hype this game to hell and back. It's like me saying that it's ok to assume Wii Music will be the best music game released so far this gen because it's made by Nintendo. There has already been several amazing jrpgs this gen, and one or two has even appeared on the HD consoles already. The trailer for WKC looks good. The game is gonna kick ass. However, overhyping it is bad for the game, and bad for you, unless you like being dissapointed by an 8.5/10 game.

I, personally prefer getting excited when my games get 8.5/10. Not hyping them, allows for this to take place. Thinking 8.5 is a crappy score, is a sure fire sign that you're an internet perfectionist, and overhypes their games and then goes on rants about how much they suck when they are only great, and not the best game ever.

For instance, if Mirror's Edge, a game I'm anticipating, is an 8.5 game and shares similar traits with the first game, I'll be happy.

If LBP is of similar quality, how do you think Sony fans would feel about that?

Both are games. Both create fun. However, if they are both 8.5s, I would be happy with my game, but several Sony fans on this website would shoot themselves in the head. Because when you overhype a game, an 8.5 is a failure. A surprise 8.5 is a treat. The more you hype, the higher the scores and quality need to be, for the game not to be considered sucky.

That's why I keep telling you all, all the time, stop hyping R2, stop hyping ever PS3 game down the pike. You are hurting the games. Reviewers hear the hype too. It hurts a games score. It hurts a games perception, sales, and it also hurts your enjoyment of the game.

@zen - i loved rogue galaxy, dqviii was decent, and both dark clouds rocked my socks....so i consider lvl-5 to be a truely awesome developer and i do have great expectations of wkc. it all boils down to an individuals frame of reference

Yeah, I addressed this possibility in my last post. I, for instance, am a huge fanboy of Peter Molyneux. I think his games are fun and under-rated. Now, while I recognize that there are waaaaaay more Level 5 hardcore fans than Molyneux fans, I still contend that it's the same thing. If you like a developer's style, then you'll like most of their games, despite what the concensus is towards them.