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senortaco on 25 September 2008
vlad321 said:
joshin69 said:
vlad321
If I'm not mistaken a PC of equal power & tech as a console will run a game worse than the console. Something to do with being a jack of all trades as my (limited) knowledge recalls

 

That depends entirely on how good the people that made the game are. I've seen 2D games with 2D sprites bog down mmy Desktop, it was a game my friend made very quicklike. I've also seen some seriousy good optimization in some games. It's the same thing as it is on consoles.

 

senortaco said:
aside from the obvious 360 cornbread the OP is loving, the one thing that I will say that can be a given, next gen, you will see MS and Sony, Nintendified in their business model. What you will see is:

1.) A GREATER emphasizes on first party titles. Relying on third party exclusives to justify your console to a consumer is OVER. You'll get a few 3rd party exclusives, but MS & Sony both are seeing that a GREAT first party lineup is a difference maker.

2.) If MS & Sony are serious about not starting with profit lose, they will look to make a profit off of the consoles, I wouldn't expect a leap in graphics over this gen.

3.) More game balance. So for those of you that like to classify games as "Casual" or "Hardcore" those lines will be farther blurred...

 

I don't know how M$ will be able to fullfill your first point considering that they lost Bungie and hey just closed Ensemble, their most respected developer.

 

True. Closing one of your best studios for cost is a bit queer. But, they are doing additon by subtraction, i.e: Spawnpoint(?) studios. IMO, It would be a mistake for MS to not improve their own offerings.



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deathgod33 on 25 September 2008

that means that ps3 will outsell xbox 360 without any games and high price (2007-2008) but will NOT outsell xbox 360 when it does get a bunch of games and and a lower price (2009-2011). thats just stupid, please tell me that was a joke, but guess not once i take a glare at your name.



 

 

 

 

sharky974 on 25 September 2008

Yep I agree. The price drop is catching on for 360 and it's probably even outselling PS3 in most of Europe now, as well as Japan even and the USA. The UK I used to be worried about PS3 catching up but it's clear now 360 is taking control of the UK for good.

PS3 will win a few smaller EU countries such as France, Germany, and Spain but not much else.

 

Plus there are other factors that will help 360 over the long term. It's more powerful according to developers, and it doesnt have a standard HDD. PS3 may never get to 199 but 360 Arcade is already there. Arcade will drop lower and lower, 149 and 99 will happen. PS3 will still be at 299 at the least by fall of next year.

 

Also Blu Ray is declining worldwide so will not be a big factor to sell PS3 going forward as hoped.



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 25 September 2008
xboxfanboy said:

1.wii

2.xbox 360

3.ps3

 

This gen console war is over. The 360 just about set there 2 place in stone which means that this war is over. I know there going to be a s*** load  of people telling me I'am wrong but unless sony wants to drop the price and keep losing money to try to catch up to ms which they will not  there no real way they can make a comeback. I not saying it will not be close but right now sony need to focus on making money but all that dosn't matter. What matters is how nintendo came for last to wiping the floor with M$ & Sony. The only problem with nintendo is all there new fans are not fan boys and next gen they pick  the one  with the new thing on it or whatever. If you look at how the ps2 fans spilt the same thing can happen to nintendo

 

  Im sorry i just had to.



TWRoO on 25 September 2008
sharky974 said:
Yep I agree. The price drop is catching on for 360 and it's probably even outselling PS3 in most of Europe now, as well as Japan even and the USA. The UK I used to be worried about PS3 catching up but it's clear now 360 is taking control of the UK for good.

PS3 will win a few smaller EU countries such as France, Germany, and Spain but not much else.

Apart from the UK, France Germany and Spain are the three largest European countries for videogame sales.

The UK is generally about 1/4 to 1/3 of the European Market, so while the 360 might manage a close race with PS3 here, the rest of Europe will more than make up for PS3 losing the UK.

PS3 is terrible in Japan, but 360 will be below it again for weekly sales soon enough.

I suppose in general it depends on what timescale you are talking about, but in terms of the whole generation, the 360 only really has a chance to beat the PS3 in the Americas (USA, Canada, Mexico mostly) and the UK.... I'm no fan of the PS3, but being realistic those are the only 4 countries of any significant gaming size that the X360 could outsell the PS3 this generation.

 



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sharky974 on 25 September 2008
TWRoOTWRoO said:
sharky
sharkysaid:
Yep I agree. The price drop is catching on for 360 and it's probably even outselling PS3 in most of Europe now, as well as Japan even and the USA. The UK I used to be worried about PS3 catching up but it's clear now 360 is taking control of the UK for good.

PS3 will win a few smaller EU countries such as France, Germany, and Spain but not much else.

Apart from the UK, France Germany and Spain are the three largest European countries fovideogamevideogame sales.

ing the UK.

PS3 is terrible in Japan, but 360 will be below it again for weekly sales soon enough.

I suppose in general it depends on what timescale you are talking about, but in terms of the whole generation, the 360 only really has a chance to beat the PS3 in the Americas (USA, Canada, Mexico mostly) and the UK.... I'm no fan of the PS3, but being realistic those are the only 4 countries of any significant gaming size that the X360 could outsell the PS3 this generation.

 

I think it can win others..Netherlands charts often show the top 360 game>the top PS3 game, as do Swedens.What about New Zealand, Taiwain, South Korea, Mexico, Austrailia (360 had 550k sold there according to recent info) etc?

 

Basically USA, Canada, UK, Australia probably enough for 360 anyway. PS3's horrific struggles in Japan helps.

 

The USA market is almost as big as all Europe (or bigger depending)..so if 360 can win UK and be competitive in the rest of Europe, it will win. Yes the year headstart was an advantage, but a fairly earned one that cant be discounted.

 

Going forward, the 360 userbase is too big to ignore (so is the PS3's..), so every major 3rd party title will be on both systems. I tend to think the natural choice will be for people to buy the cheaper option to play them, of course 360.

 

Time will tell but it's late 2008 and PS3 is still in third and the days drag on. The myth that PS3 was going to quickly overtake 360 is just wrong at this point. Whether it ever will is an open question.

 

 

 



Paul on 25 September 2008
TruckOSaurus said:
Bruce on Games is that you?

 

 Bruce on games, that guy is awesome.



TWRoO on 25 September 2008

^What the hell have you done?

Does anyone else see weird links all over that post in red and green?... I don't want to click them they look suspect.

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Regarding your post content.
I forgot South Korea, yes 360 will "win" there.
And you have to realise you can't just say "360 wins this market and this therefore it must win worldwide", because it also depends on how well PS3 does in those markets the 360 wins in, and how well the 360 does in the markets the PS3 wins in.
e.g. if the 360 wins by 1 million in US and by 100k in UK... then that won't help much because PS3 will easily make that up by 360s dismal performance in Japan, and generally poor in most other smaller countries.

Personally I don't expect the 360 to keep second place behind the Wii, it has a chance to keep it, but it's more likely PS3 will catch and surpass it eventually (worldwide) My guess is around late 2009/early 2010.



Blacksaber on 25 September 2008

What ever makes you sleep at night...



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stevechan360 on 25 September 2008

Wii will most probably get the 1st place,
i think no one is going to oppose against this,
as for 2nd place of Xbox360???
I think no one can confirm it before it really crash PS3.