Thank you. Now I know you're an ignorant moron, with no clue, who doesn't listen when other people tell you something interesting. Thus, I see no reason for having further discussion with you.

And about GTA IV being biggest in opening, read the sentence again, please.

Halo 3 has the highest single platform opening.

@predictsales.

I thought perhaps you were merely misinformed, but now I realise there isn't much point explaining to you why you are wrong because you are an ignorant fool... However I must at least try.

I found the article posted on GameSpot for you as you didn't want to link it yourself, the article gives reference to numbers from Take2 themselves, which is the publisher of the game as I am sure you know.... The publisher of a game doesn't give out any numbers from sales trackers, so they do not state sales figures.
What they do give out (which is what is in that article) is the number of copies they have sold to retailers, which while the companies refer to them as sold (because to them they are sold) they are not yet sold to gamers therefore sales trackers like NPD, Media Create, Famitsu, Chart Track, GfK and VGChartz do not count them.
In fact, on their fiscal report (see me make a helpful link: http://www.shareholder.com/visitors/DynamicDoc/document.cfm?CompanyID=TTWO&documentID=2150&PIN=&resizeThree=no&Scale=100&Keyword=type%20keyword%20here&Page=17 )
It says exactly that, on page 17 "sales to our five largest customers...(blah)...Wal-Mart, GameStop and Best Buy"

Regarding the GTAIV opening week, yes the combined sales of Ps3 and 360 version have the largest opening day and week 1 sales of all time, but that doesn't mean much when a game with a much smaller opening like Mario Kart is going to surpass the total sales of GTAIV by January. And will continue to accelerate away from GTAIV for the rest of it's life.

Regarding Mario Kart sales.... actually the LTD in America for VGChartz is currently a couple of 100k below that of NPDs figures. And as someone already said, if you are going to use shipped figures for GTA:SA, perhaps you should use the shipped figures for Mario Kart Wii, which were over 6.5 million (ie nearer 7 than 6) nearly 3 months ago.

But when June ended, Nintendo had sold 6.5 copies, which means shipped. Then, the game must have sold at most 4 or 5 million worldwide. So it definitely hasn't gone to 7 million from then to this time, but perhaps Nintendo has shipped 8 million copies to date, that would leave Mario Kart Wii at like 6 million sold, not 7 million, which VGChartz claims. So no, it is not going to outsell Grand Theft Auto IV by January, but keep beliving it.

Did predictsales get banned, or why the alt?

@Gangsterboss/preditcsales: Maybe, maybe, maybe. Since we don't have any better source than VGC for the numbers, we have to go by it, so "maybe" doesn't prove anything. Besides, next month we should have new figures since quarter ens and maybe MKWii shipments are at 15 million.

Welcome to VGChartz!

Mario Kart Wii was supply constrained through the entire 2nd quarter. Therefore, VGC sales (which are visible to everyone, you can check them too). Nintendo had shipped 6.5M (I trust you on this one), and, according to VGChartz, the total sales were at 6069K, or roughly 6M. A little under 500.000 copies were still in stores.

Since then, it has been selling steadily 160.000-170.000 copies a week, making it at 7.9M as of week ending 12th September.

TWRoO hasn't said that it would beat GTA IV by January (I believe), but by the end of the Fiscal year. As you're new, you may not know that this is at the end of Quarter 1 (start of April.)

I presume you are predictsales again (alts will be banned, but I can reply while you are here at least)

You are correct, when Nintendo had sold 6.5 million copies, less than that would have been sold to gamers, not quite to the extent of 2 million (even worldwide there would not be 2 million copies in stock) but VGC has just over 6 million for that point, so about 400k copies on shelves (which is quite a lot for a game that was very hard to find in both America and Europe at the time)

But my point was that you were comparing VGC sold figures of Mario Kart, to the shipped figures of GTA:SA.... which means GTA:SA did not sell 12 million copies in it's first 5/6 months, in fact, once again VGC shows it lower for that point, by about 600k.

GTA games have massive debut weeks, but they do not have the long lasting selling power that Mario Kart does, which is why Mario Kart catches up over time (and should pass GTAIV in January if not before)

But that just can't be right (Wii Fit sales).

No, it had not sold 6 million worldwide, but shipped. Is GTA IV going to sell well in Japan, btw?

You don't seem to be reading any of the posts you quote.

Mario Kart had shipped almost 6.5 million by the end of June, it had sold just over 6 million (the discrepancy of 400-500k is for those games still on store shelves)

As of now (almost 3 months since June) the game will have shipped considerably more than that, the fiscal report which comes out in about a month (but relates to the end of September) will probably show almost 8 million copies shipped (if they release figures for it), and VGC will show sales about 600k below that is my guess

And GTAIV should do ok in Japan, perhaps 300k total (San Andreas managed 500k, but it had the PS2 behind it) but it isn't going to help much for it to stop Mrio Kart passing it if that's what you are thinking.

I really think that Mario Kart Wii has a chance.

I cannot really decide whether or not it's fair to include both versions of Grand Theft Auto IV in this discussion. On the one hand, it IS virtually the same game on both consoles, and equally viable on both. On the other hand, you have to draw the line somewhere, right? And where exactly is that? Seems in this case that the line goes between Play Station 3+Xbox 360 and Any Other Platforms... Tricky.

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Thinking

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Ah, nevermind, I'm fine with it.