Thanks to TRios_Zen in the Rage is gimped thread...

id: Rage Not Cut Because of Xbox 360 Limits

The limitations of the DVD medium and Xbox 360 hardware have not forced id to cut content from all versions of Rage (PC, PS3, 360), the studio has told Shacknews.

Following a report that id had removed "significant content" from all versions of the shooter so the game would fit onto two Xbox 360 DVDs, id Software's Tim Willits denied that the Xbox 360 version required the studio to sacrifice its vision for the game.

"There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL," wrote Willits. "We feel the 360 is a great platform and will provide a fantastic Rage experience."

id has previously stated that the Xbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than its PC and PS3 counterparts due to the limitations of the DVD medium. The studio had hoped to circumvent this by spreading the 360 release across three DVDs, though Microsoft's royalty rates apparently make anything beyond two discs financially impracticable.

Willits' unedited response follows:

During my talk today I mentioned that we originally wanted to have around 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments but later decided instead to have 2 larger wastelands. Mostly because we were going to be shipping on two DVDs for the 360 and felt that it would play better with one large wasteland on each disc so there would be no loading between wastelands. Not loading levels while you drive around is a much better decision regardless of platform.

There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL. Moving from multiple wastelands into fewer but larger wastelands was a far better decision and is actually giving us more gameplay in the game.

We feel the 360 is a great platform and will provide a fantastic Rage experience.

 

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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54780

 

Well... that's funny.. I wake up.. read the other thread... some were bashing the XBOX360 then this shows up... funny.. :) So from 6 small wastelands to 2 big..

This is what I hate about the net sometimes. Stories are writen and are taken out of context of what was said just so that there websites can get bigger hits. Anyone who would have thought for a second must have had a little problem with him saying how the game was gimped lol I mean come on thats really shooting yourself in the foot, then to blame one system because of it lol well thats taken even more sales away. Im sure some people will say that this is damage controll and all the rest of it but come on just think for a sec even if they did leave stuff out to make it the same across all systems then you would advertise the fact would you lol.

oh good
i always doubt it

I found the other story strange that someone from iD is saying... "this game isn't released yet, but when you buy it you must remember that it's gimped" that seems so stupid..

What's interesting is reading the full thing he says final decision on some levels was made to enable easier split over 2 disks for 360 - so while nothing was cut it would appear that some content decisions were made with the 360 as the lowest common denominator regarding space for the game.

i wish both consoles had blu-ray
it would be better for gamers

This would seem to be an open admission that Blu-Ray is a better form of media distribution for games that would require multiple DVDs.

They shouldn't have made any announcements prior to finalization in regards to this as it sounds like id re-designed Rage to work within the storage limitations of the DVD media. Due to licensing fees for additional media on the 360, this will always be a factor.

So instead of a game that potentially could have taken advantage of the greater storage space of BRD, it's now just being reworked to fit on two DVDs.

How disappointing.

There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL. Moving from multiple wastelands into fewer but larger wastelands was a far better decision and is actually giving us more gameplay in the game.

So the DVD's made it actually better... please read before you post..

@greenmedic88 - i dont think any 360 fanboy would claim that the capacity of a DVD is better than the capacity of a Blu Ray when it comes to gaming..

The argument against bluray was simply based on cost. Including BluRay increased the manufacturing cost for Sony and it is likely we will see the full extent of this damage (or not) by the end of the approaching Xmas period where the 360 has been able to drop prices but the PS3 - so far - has not (I am aware that blu ray is not the only thing keepin the ps3 cost high!!).

It is disappointing that the MS royalty costs are based per DVD though, personally i just dont care if a game comes on 1 / 2 / 3 or 4 DVD's i regularly switch games / remove games from my console when watchin films / etc so its hardly an issue for me.

WTF!  You need to read it too!

Nothing was cut but he basically admits that design decisions were made based on DVD as the weakest choice - for example 4 plus areas becoming two that would split across two DVDs for 360.

He also says in plain English that PC is best due to HDD, then PS3 with 25GB or so on BR and DVD last with only 6 to 8GB.

So while nothing was cut from the final design the final design was limited soley to accomodate 360 design requirements.  Any how do you even believe that multiple DVDs and swapping is better than a single disk?