First of all i have no idea why you stated "o wait..." next to Disaster.

Secondly you and i both know that alot of the games that you mentioned aren't first party titles. So are you blaming Nintendo for not having 3rd party titles for the Hardcore?

Now to everybody: What i'm saying is that the Hardcores can look forward to thier 3 main games Brawl, Metroid and Galaxy this year and have thier hopes up high for Mario Kart Wii (online) as well as Disaster while the hardcores only have one main game announced (WiiFit) and nothing announced for them to look forward to. Yet Nintendo is abandoning thier traditional gamers.

Seriously people need calm down. Nintendo isn't even 50-50 with thier support for casuals and traditionals yet, but to the ignorant, the naive, the fanboys, or any other average person nintendo is abandoning thier faithful base. WTF.

Hopefully Momolith can create something new. I'd have to agree, while they are great at pushing old IP they stick at just making something new ones. Well, at least ones with developed characters and story(Pikmin was the last one).

Sistart is still on. Only problem is I liked H.A.M.M.E.R. more. Maybe it will come back, but who's to say. Wonder what Retro will make after MP3. Maybe they can make a new IP.

ckmlb what the hell is your point? MS announced two new crap games, Nintendo announced two new games, Sony announced one new game. Why are you daring to criticize Nintendo for not showing anything new? Nobody did.

 'Cause they weren't shooters?

Sony showed one new game, but they showed us Killzone which actually met expectations and they have two brand new timed exclusives.

MS announced to crap games as you said and Nintendo announced Mario Kart Wii that we already knew about and a fitness board.

So you're saying they all did bad? I totally disagree but that's your opinion.

And Punch Rockgroin you don't know anything about me and now are making me out to be a shooter only fan which is really sad as that's not even my favorite genre.

Of course I can expect no more than someone who's just out to bash my posts in defense of the big N. 

And Nintendo showed Galaxy. With a friggin Bee suit, and some kind of Boo outfit. More than we saw out of Killzone, which was pretty much just graphics.

You specifically criticized that nothing new was shown. Well Sony didn't show anything new either, just the same lineup of games we've been hearing about since *last* E3. Heck Killzone 2 was from 2 years ago -- how many games are you going to actually get to play if they all take 3 years to make?

 QFE

I am confident that they won't.  I mean, really, Nintendo has a checkered past as far as stifling competition goes, but to my recollection they've always been solid as far as letting their people make great, creative games. 

I heard some people are complaining Nintendo press conference is crap because all they showed is a "casual game" called WiiFit???

Either they are only seeing what they want to see.. or they have a very short term memory because during the press conference. Nintendo has demoed/showed/mentioned a lot of upcoming games: Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bro Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Mario and Sonic, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Ghost Squad, Medal of Honor, Dragon Quest Swords, Dragon Quest Monsters - Joker, Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Ninja Sigma Gaiden, Guitar Hero 3, Pokemon Wii, Mario strikers, SoulCaliber Legends, Brain Training 2, FIFA08, Madden08, MySims, MarioKart and i have probably missed quite a few. Now you probably won't be interested every single game in the list (neither do I) but that's just what Nintendo wants to show you, there are games for core gamers, there are games for casual gamers, there are traditional games and the "not-so-traditional" games for everyone. And there are actually a lot other Wii/DS games on display at e3 that they didn't even mention in the press: Harvest Moon Wii, NiGHTS, Crash of the Titans , Boogie, NBA Live 08, Smarty Pants, some Final Fantasy games, PQRS...etc. A lot of these are traditional games for core gamers and some of them are even exclusive Wii/DS games. And even for the games they showed us in the press conference, clearly they have a lot more material they can show us but didn't as you can find them from their press site/other websites. Clearly Nintendo took a different approach when they prepare the press conference and decided not to just include every games into their keynote, it's not because NINTENDO ONLY HAVE A CASUAL GAME CALLED "WII FIT" to show us.

Nintendo wants to put the focus on Wii Fit during the conference because they want to show us a new game that is different to most traditional games which fits the Nintendo "games for everyone" philosophy.

How come i don't see people complaining about MS is going to forget about their core gamers because they are releasing a new controller and game "Scene it" that is aimed towards casual gamers, and also a viva pinata mini game?

I see Nintendo has games for BOTH casual and core gamers.
But some people only see what he wants to see