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Forums - Sony - So did MGS4 fail to meet expectations?

Well lets see, since this is in the Sony forum and not sales, I'll cover all the bases.

Met quality expectations = Yes
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Met (my) sales expectations = yes ( I predicted 1 mil first week WW, around 4 Mil LTD which it will get there)
Met Konami's sales expectations = more than likely yes
Met crazed PS3 fanboys that expected a ridiculous number for a niche game - no

 

this is flamebait and u know it, it is clear to see wat u think in ur first post.

 

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as long as ps3 is sold, this game will still be sold, remeber it's THE ps3 game(and the second ps3 game i am getting after i buy a ps3).



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LOL MATURE said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
I doubt it. Thinking back to all the prediction threads, 5 million seemed to be the expected minimum for the majority of MGS fans.

Now that number is in severe doubt, even with heavy bundling. And thats ignoring the very common 6-8 predictions.

Mind sharing the links to those threads?

http://vgchartz.com/forum/board.php?id=5

Feel free to trawl through for them. 

You're looking for threads from May and June.  You may also want to check locked threads from that time

Why did you wait months after it released? I remember tons of "Lol MGS4 bombed" comments from 360 and wii fans and everyone said "The only people who think this is lower than expected are you guys" Why don't you show us a solid link with these expectations? they couldn't do it when this game launched. We shouldn't have to scrounge up links because of your claims. that proof is on you.

This thread is flaimbait and I'm reporting you.

Report away.  One glance at your first post in this thread and I suspect your report will backfire.

I try to see how things play out before suddenly jumping to conclusions over one or two week's data.  Surely months on from launch is a better time to gauge a title's success than the week after it is released?

 



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lmao because microsoft moneyhats all their games it means that sony also does it? the previous mgs' were on playstation so why wouldnt this one be?

even if some people do give valid reasons on why it met expectations, it wouldnt make a difference because your a xbox fangirl. grow up



surpassed my expectations. i thought it would have been lucky to reach 3mil tbh




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starcraft said:
LOL MATURE said:
starcraft said:

The average sales of the first three MGS titles was 5 million, not including spin-offs and Xbox versions.

MGS4 is tracking to come in to around 4 million lifetime according to VGChartz, unless it sees ungodly sales during the holiday period, or bundling (of which it has already had a great deal).  Given this title had an enormous budget compared to previous titles (even when taking account of the progression to the next generation), did MGS4 fail to meet its sales expectations?

Note:  Due to Sony moneyhatting, and solid sales of the game, I am positive Konami made a reasonable amount of profit on the game.

 I'll do what you always do when people say MS moneyhats (which they are actually known for)

Got proof?

About as much proof as you have that ToV, Star Ocean, Ace Combat and Eternal Sonata were moneyhatted.

Sometimes in life, we employ common sense.

 

Let's see... common sense says that MS will be the same ol' company with the same ol' dirty tactics. Previous behavior is reflected on a company when these situations come up. So.... why wouldn't people think MS paid for those titles?

Please starcraft you haven't used one ounce of common sense in this thread.

 



Well if your talking about Rock_on's n Leo-J's prediction shame on you Starcraft for taking em seriously

otherwise MGS4 is about to pass MGS3's TD sales in NA....PS3's worst market

I think we can safely say it has MORE than met expectations in NA. It has met exectations in EU & in Japan

Let me remind you now of some xbot predictions who said MGS4 would be lucky to get past 3 million.....some said it would never even reach MGS3's sales.

so the ludicrous predictions go both ways.

Apart from that MGS4 has not met expectations.....but surpassed them



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According to my sig, yes, it failed to meet certain expectations.



starcraft said:
LOL MATURE said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
I doubt it. Thinking back to all the prediction threads, 5 million seemed to be the expected minimum for the majority of MGS fans.

Now that number is in severe doubt, even with heavy bundling. And thats ignoring the very common 6-8 predictions.

Mind sharing the links to those threads?

http://vgchartz.com/forum/board.php?id=5

Feel free to trawl through for them. 

You're looking for threads from May and June.  You may also want to check locked threads from that time

Why did you wait months after it released? I remember tons of "Lol MGS4 bombed" comments from 360 and wii fans and everyone said "The only people who think this is lower than expected are you guys" Why don't you show us a solid link with these expectations? they couldn't do it when this game launched. We shouldn't have to scrounge up links because of your claims. that proof is on you.

This thread is flaimbait and I'm reporting you.

Report away.  One glance at your first post in this thread and I suspect your report will backfire.

I try to see how things play out before suddenly jumping to conclusions over one or two week's data.  Surely months on from launch is a better time to gauge a title's success than the week after it is released?

 

Oh so you are admitting the mods don't do their job? When taking action the reporter shouldn't be looked at but what they are reporting. If they base action on my comment and not your trolling/cherry picking/flaimbait OP then shame on them.

 



Over 21% LTD attach rate, 30% weekly attach rate ( 1 in 3 new PS3 owner buys the title) I think it's safe to say that for any reasonnable person this indeed would meet expectations... ( and don't attribute the weekly results to the bundle, it's no longer available in NA in most stores and never was there in Others to start with).

It's actually pretty much the only title I can recall with a weekly attach rate higher than LTD attach rate, so late in it's life...( on HD consoles, Wii Fit and Mario Kart are the same on the Wii).



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !