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Except nothing that happens in the future can possible pwn my argument, given my argument is based around a present day, irrefutable reality.

Your post would fail a little less if I had said something along the lines of "the Ps3 cannot sell JRPG's."

You do know that ~85 MILLION more console owners could pick up Tales of the Abyss right?

that is a flawed statement

anyway, if people want to play this game just go get it for 360. If you don't have a 360, well....

although I guess there is a small chance this could hit PS3 sometime in 2009. But ToV will sell better then Eternal Sonata did, so maybe they won't need a port.

A small reason i could see this hitting PS3 one day is that before the game was confirmed for 360, they were all hush on where it was going. Maybe during this time they were hammering out the Timed-Exclusivity.

baseless speculation FTW!

Can someone please post a facepalm pic for the lead troll in this thread?

I think a lot of posters have mistaken supposition for proof. You can suppose the genre will do well on the PS3, but there is no definitive proof of that. More to the point there are many logical arguments that it will not be the case. Remember we are talking about a console in the PS3 that went without any real JRPG titles for closing on two years in the West. That is a long dry spell, and it simply begs the question if the typical owner has willingly done without for so long are they actually interested in these titles.

That is the question developers must ask themselves. Does the typical PS3 owner even want to play games in this genre. Were they an educated consumer especially at this point they would have purchased a 360 or even a Wii. While the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. You will always be a little pressed to convince a logical person in something they cannot see until they take the plunge. Developers are playing it safe, and would any of us do any different if it were our money on the line?

There is a certain sentimentality in regards to the PS2 that bleeds over into the PS3, as if sharing the first same name should result in twining. Well with the PS3 coming up on the two year mark it is safe to say the PS3 is no PS2. Some might think its third place position, failure of a satisfactory launch, and a weak library might have been resounding proof of that. I think some posters need to start treating them differently then they have been, because the PS2 did something doesn't mean the PS3 will or can.

I saw some posters in this thread trying to use sales data, and honestly those trying to use Enchanted Arms are grabbing at very thin straws. This site has done a god awful job of tracking this games sales across both platforms. Missing data, no weekly data, missing release date, missing regional numbers. I understand the frustration in these debates you want some sort of concrete proof to back up your supposition, but sometimes using bad data is worse then having no data at all. You just need to come to terms with there being no applicable data unfair though it may be that is the point. The PS3 is utterly unproven in regards to this genre. They have no pedigree.

However over the coming months there are Eternal Sonata, Valkyrie Chronicles, and there is Disgea 3. These are the games that developers are going to look to for real sales data. These are the games that are going to provide the console with some proof. Unfortunately I cannot see any of these titles making a case for developing for the platform. Perhaps delayed ports, and if Microsoft has to pay for that it will not be very much.

Eternal Sonata will just not appeal to western consumers especially if it keeps that horrendous cover. You know the one that scared you away from purchasing the game last time you saw it. The gay is just to strong with this one. I could not bring myself to take this game to the clerk for purchase. Disgaea has not impressed me with sales yet, and it has been so abysmal this site isn't even actually tracking it.

That leaves Valkyria Chronicles which might be a title to prove something has Sega not let this one lose in North America in the middle of November. To make matters worse it isn't at all impressive in Japan. Selling less then eight percent in a market that is supposedly keen on the genre, and on a console that has not a whole hell of a lot to choose from.

Anyway it just isn't looking very promising. What Sony needs to do is throw some more money around to make up for their pedigree, and they need to start pushing titles in this genre on the advertising front. They are starting to show up, but if they meek it out then developers are probably not going to beat a path to their doorstep. The listing is erroneous, and more to the point will probably not happen. Unless Sony can show that it can actually move these titles.

You mean the op who posted this thread. Which is really old, and untrue at this point.

PS: I know you meant Starcraft.

Now you've misunderstood me.  I'm not saying PS3 'will' sell jRPGs better than 360 - I'm saying there are not enough data points to call it one way or the other.

Right now all you can say is jRPGs on 360 will sell pretty well but not amazing (so far as I can judge the sales).  There doesn't seem to be one jRPG on PS3 yet with data tracked in all territories so with regard to PS3 all you can say is its potential is unproven.

Also I count Wii as a 'next gen' console too and as you yourself pointed out it has jRPGs which have sold in line with 360 and that's the primary reason why I don't think you can refer to 360 as only console this generation to sell jRPGs.

No I wouldn't do so much work just for facepalming you

Enchanted Arms was also the 360's only JRPG (at the time) and look how it sold. So clearly devs aren't looking at that when they are deciding where to put these JRPG's.