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outlawauron on 08 September 2008

Eh, so far I disgaree. Im past Keiv Moc at about 10 hours (not sure why it took you 15) and Im a slow player.

It has a very good story with a fun battle systems. I do have some issues with it though. (Of course they are all personal.)

1. Characters Animations, or rather the non animation. It the real time cutscenes the characters feel like robots (Yuri's "chop to the neck" at Ehmead Hill.)

2. I feel like the story is kinda dragging along. They are starting to do things that are completely unrelated to what they started out to do.

3. In the cutscenes, there is no progressive speach. You have to press a button to continue the conversation. I think it would be cooler and more immersive it flowed seamlessly like the VA does in skits.

4. Karol (there is always a character you want throw off a cliff, he is mine)

I do really like:

1. Plenty of VA. I love not having to read and press "A".
2. The new artes and the evolving battle system. I love the fact that I am still figuring out new things. (Burst Artes, two level over limits, etc.)
3. Yuri. He's awesome. Not much a sterotype. He reminds me of Kaim and Auron with more personality.


That said, I really do like this game. I still LO is a better game, but ToV is giving it a run for its money.

P.S. To further elaborate on point 2. I feel like they are tacking on things to artifically make the game longer. That is all.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 September 2008
outlawauron said:
Eh, so far I disgaree. Im past Keiv Moc at about 10 hours (not sure why it took you 15) and Im a slow player.

It has a very good story with a fun battle systems. I do have some issues with it though. (Of course they are all personal.)

1. Characters Animations, or rather the non animation. It the real time cutscenes the characters feel like robots (Yuri's "chop to the neck" at Ehmead Hill.)

2. I feel like the story is kinda dragging along. They are starting to do things that are completely unrelated to what they started out to do.

3. In the cutscenes, there is no progressive speach. You have to press a button to continue the conversation. I think it would be cooler and more immersive it flowed seamlessly like the VA does in skits.

4. Karol (there is always a character you want throw off a cliff, he is mine)

I do really like:

1. Plenty of VA. I love not having to read and press "A".
2. The new artes and the evolving battle system. I love the fact that I am still figuring out new things. (Burst Artes, two level over limits, etc.)
3. Yuri. He's awesome. Not much a sterotype. He reminds me of Kaim and Auron with more personality.


That said, I really do like this game. I still LO is a better game, but ToV is giving it a run for its money.

P.S. To further elaborate on point 2. I feel like they are tacking on things to artifically make the game longer. That is all.

Not trying to marginalize your opinion at all, but I will say the game gets better the further you get into it. Excellent pacing is one of the things reviewers universally agreed on, so just remember you're basically still at the beginning. The story doesn't really start till 15 or so hours in. Right now you're at the character development stage, like in an anime. You're in the first season of Bleach. The combat and art unlocking get really deep soon, with altered arts.

Also, Karol really does become a good character later in the game, imo. I'll have to wait and get your opinion on that(I felt the same way after meeting him at the beginning).

That said, personally, I wasn't as in to LO as others were so it very much could just be me not liking that game that makes me feel this one is so much superior.

My full review of Vesperia is still a ways off, as I'm only about 30 hours in.

 



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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 September 2008

@outlaw

I'd also bet that a few reviewers played less of the game than you currently have before they submitted their reviews. I'm looking at 2 of the 3 EGM guys, and the Gamepro chick.

I mean, nobody really believes these guys play a 60 hour game in order to write a 3 line pros and cons section in a magazine nobody reads, or in the case of the gamepro chick, a 90 word essay that wouldn't fill half a type page doublespaced.

These reviewers obviously aren't finishing their games, and that's one reason reviewers hate jrpgs.

Now, you get a reviewer that loves the genre, like VanOrd and gamespot, and you'll get a fair review.



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Stats87 on 08 September 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Stats87 said:
zexen_lowe said:
It may be very well a candidate for RPG GOTY, I'm sure it's a fantastic game. But the GOTY has already been decided and is Persona 4 (second RPG GOTY consecutive for Atlus)

 

I still have to play Persona 3:FES


*hangs head in shame*

 

That's another great game. You should pick that up when you can, though the FES version is probably relatively expensive now, or will be soon. Day 1 purchase, just like Vesperia, for me. Don't let it throw you off, like Vesperia, Persona 3 takes about 15 hours to really warm up.

 

I saw it at my Local EB for $24.99,

if that is no longer there, Amazon.ca has it for 29.99. So i should be ok...for a bit longer anyway



mrstickball on 08 September 2008

Zen, and I agree. Most of these people are idiots reviewing ToV.

It boggles the mind that it's receiving the SAME scores Eternal Sonata did. WTF? How is Eternal Sonata in the same league as Tales of Vesperia? That's like comparing Beyond the Beyond with Final Fantasy VII.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 September 2008
mrstickball said:
Zen, and I agree. Most of these people are idiots reviewing ToV.

It boggles the mind that it's receiving the SAME scores Eternal Sonata did. WTF? How is Eternal Sonata in the same league as Tales of Vesperia? That's like comparing Beyond the Beyond with Final Fantasy VII.

 

I think it's because games released earlier in the consoles life cycle(particularly the first of each genre) get over-rated, like Perfect Dark Zero.

If ToV is an 8/10, ES is a 3/10 imo, and I play a shitload of these games.

I'd probably give ToV a 9/10(or a 9.5 for me personally) and ES a 6.5/10, which means I didnt' like it very much at all. I found ES very shallow and unrewarding, and at about 10 hours, it loses steam completely.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 September 2008
Stats87 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Stats87 said:
zexen_lowe said:
It may be very well a candidate for RPG GOTY, I'm sure it's a fantastic game. But the GOTY has already been decided and is Persona 4 (second RPG GOTY consecutive for Atlus)

 

I still have to play Persona 3:FES


*hangs head in shame*

 

That's another great game. You should pick that up when you can, though the FES version is probably relatively expensive now, or will be soon. Day 1 purchase, just like Vesperia, for me. Don't let it throw you off, like Vesperia, Persona 3 takes about 15 hours to really warm up.

 

I saw it at my Local EB for $24.99,

if that is no longer there, Amazon.ca has it for 29.99. So i should be ok...for a bit longer anyway

 

Don't wait too long. That game will go up in price.



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Ari_Gold on 08 September 2008

i wish i had money to buy this game and IU.... school took my money...... i don't doubt stick and zen about their impressions.... this game might end up being my jrpg of the year.... but.... its up to persona 4.. whether or not it gets delayed... i'll also say that i think the last remnant could end up being a sleeper hit....



ZenfoldorVGI on 08 September 2008
Ari_Gold said:
i wish i had money to buy this game and IU.... school took my money...... i don't doubt stick and zen about their impressions.... this game might end up being my jrpg of the year.... but.... its up to persona 4.. whether or not it gets delayed... i'll also say that i think the last remnant could end up being a sleeper hit....

 

Oh yeah man, I'm getting Fable 2, Persona 4, and The Last Remnant on day one(Unless TLR totally bombs). I'll also probably get Fallout 3 day 1, but I'll wait for reviews.

A great PS3 game is Disgaea 3. I haven't been able to beat it, but I've played it a bit at my brother's house and it's better than Disgaea 2.

I play rpgs. That's what I love. :P



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Iori Yagami on 08 September 2008

I have not got around to buying this yet, as I'm playing Ninja Gaiden 2 ATM. But this game really looks amazing to me. My gamestop is sold out (they don't even have a display case). I think it was undershipped.

Still, from what I have seen, I have to put Lost Oddyssey above it. LO is, IMO, the best JRPG released this gen. I'm not including the DS, of course.

This game looks like a solid #2 though behind LO.