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Barozi on 02 September 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
IllegalPaladin said:
twesterm said:
Meh, it's better on the 360 anyways. Playing on couch in front of my TV is always better than playing hunched over in my desk chair on a half the size monitor.

That's you're opinion of course, but I don't see how that makes it 'better' on the 360.

Local Co-op makes it better, hands down.

This game is one of the only shooters that actually lends itself to being played with a partner.

There are plenty of discernable advantages and disadvantages from PC to 360. However, if you'd ever played a local co-op through gears 1, you'd know that it can easily make the game much better, and increase the replay value.

Of course this is arguable.

The people who have done it will argue that it's the best.

The people who have never done it will argue that it's insignificant.

However, nobody that's played through Gears with local co-op is gonna wanna remove that feature. It's just too great.

Exactly. I also play co-op with my brother (splitscreen or system link) and the game is perfect designed for that.

A game with co-op functionality is a must buy for me (See Halo 3, Too Human, Gears of War, Crackdown, Kane & Lynch, Army of Two etc.)



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IllegalPaladin on 03 September 2008
Barozi said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
IllegalPaladin said:
twesterm said:
Meh, it's better on the 360 anyways. Playing on couch in front of my TV is always better than playing hunched over in my desk chair on a half the size monitor.

That's you're opinion of course, but I don't see how that makes it 'better' on the 360.

Local Co-op makes it better, hands down.

This game is one of the only shooters that actually lends itself to being played with a partner.

There are plenty of discernable advantages and disadvantages from PC to 360. However, if you'd ever played a local co-op through gears 1, you'd know that it can easily make the game much better, and increase the replay value.

Of course this is arguable.

The people who have done it will argue that it's the best.

The people who have never done it will argue that it's insignificant.

However, nobody that's played through Gears with local co-op is gonna wanna remove that feature. It's just too great.

Exactly. I also play co-op with my brother (splitscreen or system link) and the game is perfect designed for that.

A game with co-op functionality is a must buy for me (See Halo 3, Too Human, Gears of War, Crackdown, Kane & Lynch, Army of Two etc.)

 

I've played all of Halo 1, and some of Halo 2 and 3 in co-op as well as getting through nearly all of Gears of War co-op on the Xbox/Xbox 360. I'm not going to argue that it's not fun, because not only with those games, co-op with my room mate in Resistance: Fall of Man as well as Army of Two and split screen with him in Warhawk online is fun as hell.

Still, local co-op isn't going to be as much of a deal breaker for me to make Gears of War 2 on the 360 so much better, even though it is a nice feature to have for a console game. I think you're being too absolute considering my gaming tastes for both PC and consoles.

@Barozi- Wouldn't system link provide a similar experience to Gears of War co-op on the PC?



JaggedSac on 03 September 2008
IllegalPaladin said:
Barozi said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
IllegalPaladin said:
twesterm said:
Meh, it's better on the 360 anyways. Playing on couch in front of my TV is always better than playing hunched over in my desk chair on a half the size monitor.

That's you're opinion of course, but I don't see how that makes it 'better' on the 360.

Local Co-op makes it better, hands down.

This game is one of the only shooters that actually lends itself to being played with a partner.

There are plenty of discernable advantages and disadvantages from PC to 360. However, if you'd ever played a local co-op through gears 1, you'd know that it can easily make the game much better, and increase the replay value.

Of course this is arguable.

The people who have done it will argue that it's the best.

The people who have never done it will argue that it's insignificant.

However, nobody that's played through Gears with local co-op is gonna wanna remove that feature. It's just too great.

Exactly. I also play co-op with my brother (splitscreen or system link) and the game is perfect designed for that.

A game with co-op functionality is a must buy for me (See Halo 3, Too Human, Gears of War, Crackdown, Kane & Lynch, Army of Two etc.)

 

I've played all of Halo 1, and some of Halo 2 and 3 in co-op as well as getting through most of Gears of War co-op. I'm not going to argue that it's not fun, because co-op with my room mate in Resistance: Fall of Man as well as Army of Two and split screen with him in Warhawk online is fun as hell, but local co-op isn't going to be as much of a deal breaker for me to make Gears of War 2 on the PC so much better.

 

Besides, Co-op wasn't what Twestern was talking about when he said that it's better on 360. I specifically see 'couch' and 'TV' used .

 

Since Gears on PC was SOOO much better.  LOL.  I guess a years wait is worth slightly better graphics, awkward keyboard/mouse controls, a small new level, some new multiplayer modes, and piss poor optimizations, then I guess yeah your right.  People can do what they want, but I sure as **** ain't waiting to get it.  I am gtting Spore for pc this fall and I think that is it.  Unless Diablo 3 is coming out.



Rock_on_2008 on 03 September 2008
NeoRatt said:
Like Microsoft would come out and say, "don't buy a 360 to play GoW 2, wait until it comes out on PC"...

They may or may not do GoW 2 for the PC... To talk about it now is a waste of a thread as there is no way Microsoft will admit it right now even if they were.

I predict Gears of War 2 would appear on PC 12 months after the X360 release of the game. Gears of War 2 on PC for November/December 2009 is possible.

 



IllegalPaladin on 03 September 2008
JaggedSac said:
IllegalPaladin said:
Barozi said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
IllegalPaladin said:
twesterm said:
Meh, it's better on the 360 anyways. Playing on couch in front of my TV is always better than playing hunched over in my desk chair on a half the size monitor.

That's you're opinion of course, but I don't see how that makes it 'better' on the 360.

Local Co-op makes it better, hands down.

This game is one of the only shooters that actually lends itself to being played with a partner.

There are plenty of discernable advantages and disadvantages from PC to 360. However, if you'd ever played a local co-op through gears 1, you'd know that it can easily make the game much better, and increase the replay value.

Of course this is arguable.

The people who have done it will argue that it's the best.

The people who have never done it will argue that it's insignificant.

However, nobody that's played through Gears with local co-op is gonna wanna remove that feature. It's just too great.

Exactly. I also play co-op with my brother (splitscreen or system link) and the game is perfect designed for that.

A game with co-op functionality is a must buy for me (See Halo 3, Too Human, Gears of War, Crackdown, Kane & Lynch, Army of Two etc.)

 

I've played all of Halo 1, and some of Halo 2 and 3 in co-op as well as getting through most of Gears of War co-op. I'm not going to argue that it's not fun, because co-op with my room mate in Resistance: Fall of Man as well as Army of Two and split screen with him in Warhawk online is fun as hell, but local co-op isn't going to be as much of a deal breaker for me to make Gears of War 2 on the PC so much better.

 

Besides, Co-op wasn't what Twestern was talking about when he said that it's better on 360. I specifically see 'couch' and 'TV' used .

 

Since Gears on PC was SOOO much better. LOL. I guess a years wait is worth slightly better graphics, awkward keyboard/mouse controls, a small new level, some new multiplayer modes, and piss poor optimizations, then I guess yeah your right. People can do what they want, but I sure as **** ain't waiting to get it. I am gtting Spore for pc this fall and I think that is it. Unless Diablo 3 is coming out.

 

 

Actually that was a mistype.

It's not like I don't know any people with a 360. I went through most of Gears of War and saw the ending not long after it came out (about a month or two).

 



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JaggedSac on 03 September 2008
IllegalPaladin said:
JaggedSac said:
IllegalPaladin said:

 

I've played all of Halo 1, and some of Halo 2 and 3 in co-op as well as getting through most of Gears of War co-op. I'm not going to argue that it's not fun, because co-op with my room mate in Resistance: Fall of Man as well as Army of Two and split screen with him in Warhawk online is fun as hell, but local co-op isn't going to be as much of a deal breaker for me to make Gears of War 2 on the PC so much better.

 

Besides, Co-op wasn't what Twestern was talking about when he said that it's better on 360. I specifically see 'couch' and 'TV' used .

 

Since Gears on PC was SOOO much better. LOL. I guess a years wait is worth slightly better graphics, awkward keyboard/mouse controls, a small new level, some new multiplayer modes, and piss poor optimizations, then I guess yeah your right. People can do what they want, but I sure as **** ain't waiting to get it. I am gtting Spore for pc this fall and I think that is it. Unless Diablo 3 is coming out.

Actually that was a mistype.

Oops, I guess that makes me an asshole.

 



erikers on 03 September 2008

I fail to see how this is labeled a "debacle" by the article writer. A debacle would have to have some kind of conflicting reports, misinformation or something in general going wrong in the first place. This just seems to be another guy confirming what Cliff said before. Maybe I'm crazy or the english language is hard to grasp.

A debacle is Bungie saying they are going to show a trailer of a new game at E3 then they never end up getting to show it.

Completed XBLA: 16 / 32
Completed Retail: 17 / 64
GS Completion %: 82.63%
 
IllegalPaladin on 03 September 2008
JaggedSac said:
IllegalPaladin said:
JaggedSac said:
IllegalPaladin said:

 

I've played all of Halo 1, and some of Halo 2 and 3 in co-op as well as getting through most of Gears of War co-op. I'm not going to argue that it's not fun, because co-op with my room mate in Resistance: Fall of Man as well as Army of Two and split screen with him in Warhawk online is fun as hell, but local co-op isn't going to be as much of a deal breaker for me to make Gears of War 2 on the PC so much better.

 

Besides, Co-op wasn't what Twestern was talking about when he said that it's better on 360. I specifically see 'couch' and 'TV' used .

 

Since Gears on PC was SOOO much better. LOL. I guess a years wait is worth slightly better graphics, awkward keyboard/mouse controls, a small new level, some new multiplayer modes, and piss poor optimizations, then I guess yeah your right. People can do what they want, but I sure as **** ain't waiting to get it. I am gtting Spore for pc this fall and I think that is it. Unless Diablo 3 is coming out.

Actually that was a mistype.

Oops, I guess that makes me an asshole.

 

 

That's fine, but I've played it on the PC and there wasn't much of a difference between the PC and 360 versions in my eyes, just the fun game on the 360 on the PC too. I'd have to find my college friend again and ask him to barrow it again since I not only reformatted, but I also upgraded my video card recently, but it looked good and ran well enough without all the graphics being on high (I think the settings were on medium). Not only that, my speakers made it a great game to play when one of my room mates decided to have people over and pull an all nighter. I'm pretty sure it crashed a couple of times, but I'm the kind of person who saves a lot so it was only a minor inconvience. Lastly, when it comes to controls, they weren't awkward at all. You simply tweak the input options to suit what's comfortable for you and you're good to go or you could simply plug in a wired 360 controller and do the same thing.



JaggedSac on 03 September 2008
IllegalPaladin said:

 

That's fine, but I've played it on the PC and there wasn't much of a difference between the PC and 360 versions in my eyes, just the fun game on the 360 on the PC too. I'd have to find my college friend again and ask him to barrow it again since I not only reformatted, but I also upgraded my video card recently, but it looked good and ran well enough without all the graphics being on high (I think the settings were on medium). Not only that, my speakers made it a great game to play when one of my room mates decided to have people over and pull an all nighter. I'm pretty sure it crashed a couple of times, but I'm the kind of person who saves a lot so it was only a minor inconvience. Lastly, when it comes to controls, they weren't awkward at all. You simply tweak the input options to suit what's comfortable for you and you're good to go or you could simply plug in a wired 360 controller and do the same thing.

 

I respect you.  A good honest post.



JaggedSac on 03 September 2008
erikers said:

I fail to see how this is labeled a "debacle" by the article writer. A debacle would have to have some kind of conflicting reports, misinformation or something in general going wrong in the first place. This just seems to be another guy confirming what Cliff said before. Maybe I'm crazy or the english language is hard to grasp.

A debacle is Bungie saying they are going to show a trailer of a new game at E3 then they never end up getting to show it.

 

You are correct, that was a complete and ****ing total debacle.  I was pissed.  It better blow my brain out of my ass when they finally announce it.