That was me =p

I read it in an interview that came out a moonth ago. I'm actually surprised that they were humble enough to admit that their stories weren't amazing. I'm sure the story of WKC will be awesome though if not a little cliche because of the Premise(boy saves princess, they fall in love type.)

You are quite modest in your predictions for the PS3-version, stickball.

Only 1.4 million to 1.8 million for a title which is still a full year away?

pap -

Did you notice the PS3 just this week, finally crossed the margin of having more PS3s sold than copies of XII? I find it very hard to understand how XIII, despite all the hearalding the forum gives it (mostly from the fallout of the whole "XIII will save the PS3 in Japan and ascend it to the heavens" crowd), can sell so danged well when it's being put on a poor selling system.

MGS4, for all the fanfare and sales it's had, is still below 75% of the LTD of MGS2, and around 77% of MGS3. This would put FFXIII still under 1.8m units sold LTD in Japan.

We could also look at other preformances of bigger-ish games to determine where XIII may land:

The average margin is (including MGS3/4), around 55.2% between all given titles. With that kind of dropoff for PS2 to PS3 titles...Why should I believe that it will magically improve by a large margin? Will it get better? Yes. But I don't expect it to grow as large as some PS3 fanboys hope it does, so the PS3 magically sells more consoles in a market it sucks in.

So stickball, you believe that the 360 could sell 1 million more units of FFXIII in America than the PS3? How much do you expect the game to sell? 6 million units?

Let's be honest, FFXIII, is not going to outdo XII on the PS2, so Five million is a stretch.

With 1.5 million of that being on the PS3 in Japan, that leaves 3 million or so between two regions and with 1 million or so being in Others, you believe that the two million or so sold in america 1.5 mil for the 360 and .5 mil for the PS3? Did GTA IV even have that margin (3:1)?

@ stick: you're not taking into account it's still a whole while away, and that the PS3 has been selling quite well (and predictions are that it'll sell as good or even better in the future) so it'll have a larger base when the game hits.

And I haven't researched all the games you have mentioned, but what was the install base when those games hit.

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Even Tretton said right after E3 was over that Japan exclusivity for this title would probably not help their cause too much.

FF13 should destroy FF12's sales

look FF12 had the same problem MGs3 had.....not enough hype...late release in consoles age (especially XII as it came out the months PS3 launched)

proof that FF13 should outsell FF12......MGS4 will outsell MGS3 by the end of xmas easily.

How many units do you expect the PS3 to sell betwee now, and this time a year from now? The PS3 has sold 2.3m units in about 21 months in Japan - Under 100,000 a month. So I don't see how it's going to reach more than 4 million units before XIII hits. 4 million! That's not going to be enough, in my opinion, to sustain great XIII sales, especially when the PS3 is lacking any viable metrics to state that the PS3 is going to have some random, major, increase in sales over the next few months.

I don't understand why your so defensive about calling the Playstation 3 a poor-selling system in Japan? It's not like that's a lie. The Wii has a huge lead over it, and the biggest selling JRPG on the Wii - a spinoff of a moderate selling series, has greatly outpreformed any PS3 RPG to date. So in my eyes, the PS3 is selling very poorly, and the X360 even more so.

Feel free to research the userbases of the PS2 games I mentioned. Most of the games I listed were late(r) into the PS2's lifespan merely because I wanted to compare the most recent titles. If you like, you could use older PS2 games when it had a smaller userbase -

Most games very well, and some, better, early in the PS2's lifespan.

DMC1 released in 2001 to a PS2 base of 5.5m units, and outsold DMC3 and DMC 4's LTD sales by the end of week 1.

Ridge Racer V was a Playstation 2 launch title, and sold 4x the number of units that Ridge Racer 7 did (also, a launch title).

Dynasty Warriors 2 was out within 5 months of the PS2 launch, and the PS2 had sold 500,000 units more than the PS3 did in that timeframe. It sold 300,000 units.

Hot Shots Golf 3 was out 1 year after the PS2 launched (about 4.3m HW install base), and sold 920,000 units.

And finally, Final Fantasy X had a userbase of 5.1 million units, when it launched to sales of 1.9m units on week-1. That 5.1m userbase is still WELL ahead of what the PS3 could hopefully project to.

And in the PS2's case, FFX was the only game that sold 1m units or more, with a userbase anywhere near 5m units.

And you could go back to MGS4: If MGS4 is the upper eschelon of what a Playstation 3 game can hope to sell, given the userbase, then the PS3 is going to have to grow considerably for FFXIII to sell what some are suggesting. Use the numbers, folks.

70/30 split favoring the PS3. Umm, what evidence do we even have that JRPG's sell on the 360? Japan will make this very lopsided. Europe will see more sales on the PS3 than the 360 (bigger install base). America alone couldn't give the 360 the win even if there was 0 install base there. At most it will sell 2,000,000 in NA on the 360 if it was launched on that console alone. Its not. Most people will want to play versus as well if they are FF fans, so I think it will be just about even in NA.

I will agree that FFXIII will destroy XII's sales...Just not in Japan. I think the choice of going Multi-Platform will greatly benefit FFXIII in the West, where the Xbox 360 and PS3 have strong userbases, and will (hopefully) give it awesome sales.

I am personally expecting XIII to finish close to FFX's LTD WW sales.

Jandre - What proof do we have that RPGs sell well on the PS3, either? :)