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Gamer4eva said:
With market growth being huge, especially in the EU and with the Wii and DS getting new gamers, the potential customer range sould be about 350 Mil. And in the end it should be like this

Wii = 150 Mil
PS3 = 160 Mil (Blu Ray will make this thing sell, trust me)
360 = 40 Mil

 

No.

You predicted in your post "Blu Ray will really kick in by 2011..."  It is currently 2008 and there are standalone BR players cheaper than the PS3 already.  By Jan. 2010 I fully expect several sub-$100 BR players.  BR going big could definitely help Sony as the royalties come in but it won't help the PS3 as non-gamers can buy cheaper standalone players instead of buying PS3s.  Right now is the time for the PS3 to take advantage of BR's victory with it being the best BR player out there.  Once a fully featured BR player that can update comes out below $200 PS3 will no longer get a boost from people buying it for movies.

I'm too lazy to write out several paragraph responses to all your points so i'll just be concise.

- PSN will be solid and will have all bases covered

Seriously?  Xbox had the best online system last gen and that meant nothing.  PSN should be quite amazing as Sony continues to improve it but that will not help the PS3 sell 100 million consoles as the only way it could hit that milestone is by appealing to a broader casual market that doesn't care about such things.

- The Price should definitly be $299 by 2011 if not less

And by 2011 MS and Nintendo will have launched new consoles at or around $300 themselves.  Infact Sony will probably launch the PS4 around 2011, and having learned their lesson from the PS3, will not price it above $400.  Sony better hope they can cut PS3 costs to $149 or at least $179 by then or the PS3 sales will drop immediately.

- HD adoption will be huge by then and a PS3 would be the perfect addition

How?  For movies?  Like I said BR won't help the PS3 at that point.  For games?  There was a survey done late last year that showed 65% of Wii owners used HDTVs.  Most people don't care about hooking the SD console upto their HD set.  There are many HD owners out there that are too clueless to realize why hooking up their HDTVs with composite connections is pointless.

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All in all it's obvious you're drinking the Sony "10 year plan" Kool Aid so there probably isn't anything I can say that would convince you otherwise.

Although I did think it was nice of you to appease the Nintendo fans by giving the Wii 150 million sales and the PS3 just barely passing it overall.  Others would have been more honest with their own feelings and had the Wii drop off at 45 million and the PS3 skyrocket to 200 million.



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HappySqurriel said:

Honestly, I'm wondering whether we're going to start to see a massive feedback loop which could (effectively) "Kill Off" the HD consoles ...

The success of the Wii should justify at least equal investment in Wii games as compared to HD games, but the Wii's lower development cost and shorter developmet cycle should translate into many more games being released off of the same investment; to a certain extent we have started to see this from the higher number of announced games for the Wii as compared to the XBox 360 and PS3 over the same timeframe. As the Wii starts to have a more constant release schedule of "quality" games its library will look more attractive to consumers than the PS3 or XBox 360's library which should translate to higher sales. As the sales grow it becomes more likely that investment in Wii development will become greater than HD game development, which will turn into the release schedule favouring the Wii on a more disproportionate level, which will push Wii sales further.

At this point in time it is impossible to see whether this is happening or not, but if the industry plays out this way in 2010/2011 the Wii could have a release schedule like the PS2 had in 2005 while the PS3 and XBox 360 could have a release schedule like the XBox and Gamecube in 2005.

well put.  there is no guarentee this will happen but i'd say the odds are pretty good.  i'm just waiting for the day when multiplat games are made for the wii first and the 360/ps3 get direct ports with no upgrade in graphics.  the loler juice will taste great that morning. xD

 



The PS3 will hit 200 million before the wii hits 100 million.

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WiiStation360 said:
I vote for the Wii before the PS3 & 360 combined.

This.

Well said RolStoppable.

I concur

I agree

I'll go with this also...

SmokedHostage said:

Which is more likely to happen?  The PS3 selling 100 million before the Wii or the Wii selling 100 million before the PS3.

Let the carnage commence.

 

 Seriously man you could have come up with a better thread.  Are you being serious?  I think a more realistic question would be who would win a 200m sprint between myself and Usain Bolt.  A totally ridiculous question but I really think it's a more difficult question to answer than what you have come up with.



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kowenicki said:

Lets look at this properly....

last gen

PS2 120m
Xbox 24m
GC 21m
DC 10 m
Total 175m

currently

Wii 31.5m
360 20.4m
PS3 15.1m

Total 67m

So... there are roughly 100 million potential sales still out there?

I suppose there could be more.. gaming has gone to new markets and the Wii particularly has attracted a new audience. So lets be real optimistic and say 125 million. It still doesnt give any console other than the Wii a chance of 100 million sold in my opinion.

Not a big difference, but can't forget about the Dreamcast!

 



Wii will get 100 million easily it sells like a monster. And there it wont slow down for ages.

PS3 well it does have a chance, but looking at current sales a really slim one, and Sony fanboys should open their eyes, playstation brand no longer dominates, Blu Ray does not matter for most of consumers in 2008 and it wont matter for a while.



360 has more chance beating the PS3 than th PS3 reaching 100 millions this generation...



kowenicki said:

With market growth being huge, especially in the EU and with the Wii and DS getting new gamers, the potential customer range sould be about 350 Mil. And in the end it should be like this

Wii = 150 Mil
PS3 = 160 Mil (Blu Ray will make this thing sell, trust me)
360 = 40 Mil

 

I mean really.... WOW!   Frenzied sony fanboyism is in overdrive today.  As is frenzied rank stupidity.

So let me get this straight.  350m consoles! 

So..assuming a 10 year cycle (yeah right) that means 290m consoles in the next 8 years,

In other words 36m per year!!!! - thats 36m year in, year out!!  INSANITY!!!!

There's one, stop exaggerating.  Same for the rest of the users that were doing it in this thread geez.   

 



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