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theprof00 on 28 August 2008
Obliterator1700 said:
theprof00 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
theprof00 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
If you guys are saying graphics than you honestly must not have played many games. I'm very sure everyone's favorite games have memorable music and graphics are likely an afterthought seeing as how many people love games from the last gens.

Also, good music can help a bad game. It makes the game remembered as the bad game with good music. If a game is bad and has bad graphics then it's usually not remembered.
Rofl...I've noticed that 100% of Ninty fans said music, but please don't say such a thing. Halo? When you look back at the game do you honestly think of music before graphics? False...

i'm probably the furthest thing from a ninty fan, but i can tell you right now music makes the game.

despite graphical updates, new features, original katamari> other katamari

before evyone gets on my case about the "furthest thing from a ninty fan" i don't mean i hate ninty, i mean i am apathetic to it.

 

 
Grahics don't? Wake up...

sorry to disagree with you "itashi", but the op specifically asked what makes a game more memerable. imho (and probably factually as well) music makes for longer more persistant memories, just like smells. Remember, our video memory works only in frames, whereas our olfactory and audition memory recognition persist in entirety.

 
So you remember the way something smells better than they look? Wow! I best stop arguing with you...

lol itashi i am so sorry to do this to you. but i will just have to back it up with facts

Research has indicated smell to be the strongest memory-provoker. (McAleer, 1985.p.66) This might be because the receptors for these sensors go directly into the brain through the olfactory bulbs to the hippocampus, and require less processing than do the other senses.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0110291/science/factors/senses.php

i can find better sources if you want, this was just a quick search, but i can guarantee you right now, that his is proven by science. so, again, sorry to do that to you. make you look completely wrong like that.

 in the future you should know that i know my shit.

 http://health.howstuffworks.com/smell3.htm

memory impairments have also been linked to loss of hearing.

if you wanna continue this i'd be happy to. though your opinion is still valid.



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Obliterator1700 on 28 August 2008
theprof00 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
theprof00 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
theprof00 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
If you guys are saying graphics than you honestly must not have played many games. I'm very sure everyone's favorite games have memorable music and graphics are likely an afterthought seeing as how many people love games from the last gens.

Also, good music can help a bad game. It makes the game remembered as the bad game with good music. If a game is bad and has bad graphics then it's usually not remembered.
Rofl...I've noticed that 100% of Ninty fans said music, but please don't say such a thing. Halo? When you look back at the game do you honestly think of music before graphics? False...

i'm probably the furthest thing from a ninty fan, but i can tell you right now music makes the game.

despite graphical updates, new features, original katamari> other katamari

before evyone gets on my case about the "furthest thing from a ninty fan" i don't mean i hate ninty, i mean i am apathetic to it.

 

 
Grahics don't? Wake up...

sorry to disagree with you "itashi", but the op specifically asked what makes a game more memerable. imho (and probably factually as well) music makes for longer more persistant memories, just like smells. Remember, our video memory works only in frames, whereas our olfactory and audition memory recognition persist in entirety.

 
So you remember the way something smells better than they look? Wow! I best stop arguing with you...

lol itashi i am so sorry to do this to you. but i will just have to back it up with facts

Research has indicated smell to be the strongest memory-provoker. (McAleer, 1985.p.66) This might be because the receptors for these sensors go directly into the brain through the olfactory bulbs to the hippocampus, and require less processing than do the other senses.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0110291/science/factors/senses.php

i can find better sources if you want, this was just a quick search, but i can guarantee you right now, that his is proven by science. so, again, sorry to do that to you. make you look completely wrong like that.

 in the future you should know that i know my shit.

 http://health.howstuffworks.com/smell3.htm

Better link please...

 



Blacksaber on 28 August 2008

Music this song has stuck in my mind for ever....

 



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superbeast1370 on 28 August 2008

definetly Music. ONE WINGED ANGEL FTW!!!



deathcape on 28 August 2008

Music and art style...

not so much resolution



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theprof00 on 28 August 2008

http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/smell/memory.html, last paragraph and this:

Olfaction is the sensory modality that is physically closest to the limbic system, of which the hippocampus and amygdala are a part, and which is responsible for emotions and memory. Indeed this may be why odor-evoked memories are unusually emotionally potent (1996).

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1751 hal;fway down ctrl+F smell and memory

"Smell evokes memory in a way that no other sense can"

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:2WUYDuGbPqQJ:www.cas.uio.no/Publications/Cas04no1/screen.pdf+smell+memory&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

i can't quote anything from there for some reason.

memory and hearing

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/22/memory-impairment-linked-to-hearing-disorder/2647.html

http://staticdisposal.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/sound-memory-intertwined/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12721.php

this last one states how both sight and sound are crucial in short term memory, but that sound outperforms sight a little more than slightly.



Obliterator1700 on 28 August 2008
theprof00 said:

http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/smell/memory.html, last paragraph and this:

Olfaction is the sensory modality that is physically closest to the limbic system, of which the hippocampus and amygdala are a part, and which is responsible for emotions and memory. Indeed this may be why odor-evoked memories are unusually emotionally potent (1996).

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1751 hal;fway down ctrl+F smell and memory

"Smell evokes memory in a way that no other sense can"

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:2WUYDuGbPqQJ:www.cas.uio.no/Publications/Cas04no1/screen.pdf+smell+memory&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

i can't quote anything from there for some reason.

memory and hearing

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/22/memory-impairment-linked-to-hearing-disorder/2647.html

http://staticdisposal.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/sound-memory-intertwined/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12721.php

this last one states how both sight and sound are crucial in short term memory, but that sound outperforms sight a little more than slightly.
Memorable doesn't mean what you think it means...

 

 



Kasz216 on 28 August 2008
Obliterator1700 said:
theprof00 said:

http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/smell/memory.html, last paragraph and this:

Olfaction is the sensory modality that is physically closest to the limbic system, of which the hippocampus and amygdala are a part, and which is responsible for emotions and memory. Indeed this may be why odor-evoked memories are unusually emotionally potent (1996).

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1751 hal;fway down ctrl+F smell and memory

"Smell evokes memory in a way that no other sense can"

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:2WUYDuGbPqQJ:www.cas.uio.no/Publications/Cas04no1/screen.pdf+smell+memory&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

i can't quote anything from there for some reason.

memory and hearing

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/22/memory-impairment-linked-to-hearing-disorder/2647.html

http://staticdisposal.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/sound-memory-intertwined/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12721.php

this last one states how both sight and sound are crucial in short term memory, but that sound outperforms sight a little more than slightly.
Memorable doesn't mean what you think it means...

 

 

Memorable

  • worth remembering
    wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

  • In psychology, memory is an organism's ability to store, retain, and subsequently retrieve information. Traditional studies of memory began in the realms of philosophy, including techniques of artificially enhancing the memory. ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorable
  • Worthy to be remembered; very important or remarkable
    en.wiktionary.org/wiki/memorable
    •
  • Describes something which is easy to remember.



    • Kasz216 on 28 August 2008

    Now think... which do you remembner more.

    You suddenly have a picture of a game pop in your head and remember it again.

    Or a song pops in your head and you suddenly remember the game it's from.

    The fact that you often unintentionally remember a game more on song then just an image poping in your head... makes music more important in making a game memorable.



    tabsina on 28 August 2008

    well let me ask you this:
    How many people can sing/hum/play the super mario brothers song, and how many of those can remember what bowser looked like in that game