^ Fatal Frame 4 is already released in Japan

 exclusive on delaystation 3?

Regardless of what many people on here say, I consider RE4 and the upcoming RE5 to be survival horror. Lets see, it's a horror game and you're trying to survive. Yup, sounds like survival horror to me. Who says that a survival horror game has to be slow paced and limited ammo? I don't see why it can't be faster paced with more action. In my opinion, there can be variations of the genre. Look at fighting games for example. We now have mostly all 3D fighters where 15 years ago, it was all 2D. Despite that, they're still fighting games just like they were then but just different.

I could see how RE4 could disappoint fans of the older style ganes but I don't think that RE4 shouldn't be classified as survival horror because it's more action packed.

 On what planet is Bioshock a horror game?  Sure, it has some tense moments, but nothing that's ever meant to scare you.

Resident Evil 4 is absolutely survival horror.  If Dawn of the Dead is a horror movie, then RE4 and 5 definitely are--both feature incredibly smart 'zombies' that run at the characters, work together, and are incredibly intelligent.  So there.

RE4 has much more in common with Gears of War than any classic survival horror game. I mean...in gears of war you are trying to "survive". Hell every game since beginning of time is based on you staying alive and not dying...

There are no compromises in survival horror. And there are aspecs which clearly take away fom the horror experience in RE4.

- The constant and silly dialoge between you and dozen people throughout the game using intercom (no sense of being alone hence not scary)

- The lack of "Wait, I can't blast my way through this?" gameplay ideas

- No puzzles what so ever

- Merchant which sells you any gun, health spray or ammo you may need

RE4 had scary parts, such as those creatures that regenerate. I actually found the scariest parts of the game are when you play with the presidents daughter and those knight armor things are chasing you...

However as a whole, the game is mostly a survival third person shooter...in the same way a mario game is a survival platformer.

+1 for disolitude

"However as a whole, RE4 is mostly a survival third person shooter...in the same way a mario game is a survival platformer."

Well said.

(wow, just realized Space Invader is a survival shoot them up lol)

I think Dead Space is not a survival horror. It will be more similar to RE4. Survival Horror is surviving and horror. Bioshock, recent Alone in the Dark, RE4/5, Condemned 1/2, L4D and Dead Space are Gore Shootout Fests with Horror. Survival Horror is Silent Hill, Fatal Frame, RE123, Rainy Woods, old alone in the dark.

I see what you're saying but at it's heart, RE4 is a horror based game. I don't think there is any "official" rules for what makes it survival. There are numerous types of horror movies whether it be slashers, ghost, monster, etc but when it comes down to it, it's a horror movie. I feel the same for RE4, it's obviously a horror game. So if anything, I'd call it a survival action horror game.

I don't mean any offense to anyone, it's just my opinion. I hope there is at least one thing we can all agree on- that RE4 on it's own merit is an incredible game.

Dead Space looks like it's going to be pretty good. All the previews I've seen have been glowing.