libellule said: Kyros said: If the PS3 keeps this average. Thats the only important sentence of the whole post. If you make a computation under garbage assumptions you get garbage results.    ==> we have a winner ! Also, dont expect too much from the Xbox360 price drop ...

 

No we have two losers.  I mean I could see your point if he only posted the current rate necessary, but if you read the OPs post he also post the numbers it would take for the PS3 to surpass the 360 in 24months, 18 months, and 12 months. If you think the PS3 will out sell the 360 by Christmas 2009 state it and be done with it. Just remember that the PS3 would have to out sell the 360 by an average of nearly 86k per week or just over 343k per month to do so. Did either of you even read the OPs whole post?

KZ2 said: Christmas 2008 Ps3 will overtake the X360 in total worldwide console sales.

So you think PS3 is going to outsell the 360 by an average of 420,000 units per week for the rest of the year?

 

Darc Requiem said: libellule said: Kyros said: If the PS3 keeps this average. Thats the only important sentence of the whole post. If you make a computation under garbage assumptions you get garbage results.    ==> we have a winner ! Also, dont expect too much from the Xbox360 price drop ...   No we have two losers.  I mean I could see your point if he only posted the current rate necessary, but if you read the OPs post he also post the numbers it would take for the PS3 to surpass the 360 in 24months, 18 months, and 12 months. If you think the PS3 will out sell the 360 by Christmas 2009 state it and be done with it. Just remember that the PS3 would have to out sell the 360 by an average of nearly 86k per week or just over 343k per month to do so. Did either of you even read the OPs whole post?

 

 ==> hi,

The OP is guessing like all of us. It is not because he is using the numbers that what he is saying is right.

You can believe him, if you want, that is your choice. I prefer not.

I prefer check the trends, PS3 rising, Xbox360 falling. The Xbox360 will have a sever bump during september/october and then it will go down definitively. Nobody need this console. Media and public have already chosen the PS3 for the second place. NA is not WW. Period.

libellule said: Darc Requiem said: libellule said: Kyros said: If the PS3 keeps this average. Thats the only important sentence of the whole post. If you make a computation under garbage assumptions you get garbage results.    ==> we have a winner ! Also, dont expect too much from the Xbox360 price drop ...   No we have two losers.  I mean I could see your point if he only posted the current rate necessary, but if you read the OPs post he also post the numbers it would take for the PS3 to surpass the 360 in 24months, 18 months, and 12 months. If you think the PS3 will out sell the 360 by Christmas 2009 state it and be done with it. Just remember that the PS3 would have to out sell the 360 by an average of nearly 86k per week or just over 343k per month to do so. Did either of you even read the OPs whole post?    ==> hi, The OP is guessing like all of us. It is not because he is using the numbers that what he is saying is right. You can believe him, if you want, that is your choice. I prefer not. I prefer check the trends, PS3 rising, Xbox360 falling. The Xbox360 will have a sever bump during september/october and then it will go down definitively. Nobody need this console. Media and public have already chosen the PS3 for the second place. NA is not WW. Period.

The 360 has sold more consoles this year than at the same point last year. The PS3 has seen a bigger increase over the prior years sales than the 360. So the PS3 is rising, but so is the 360. The OP did put his guess to when/if the PS3 will surpass the 360 but he also put the numbers it would take for the PS3 to pass the 360 at a sooner date. In other words he said I think _____ but in order for it to happen sooner it will take _____. You co-signed Kyros' post which called his numbers "garbage." His numbers are simple math, it comes down whether are not you believe the PS3 will out sell the 360 by a certain date. You said you think it will happen by Christmas 2009. Which means the PS3 would have to average 86k more a week than the 360. A year from now would be 113k a week, 18 months would be 75k a week, and 24 months would be 57k. There is no twisting or spinning that. It is just taking the time frame you believe and dividing it into the 360's lead over the PS3.

Eh yes. But he also pretty clearly says that he thinks it will take 2.75 years based on his computations. Which are useless. So this assumption is equally useless. Which makes the thread pretty pointless.
Things will not stay the same. Look at the PSP in Japan which suddenly took off like a rocket in sales. One important reason one game Monster Hunter. Or the PS2 which multiplied sales after it got cheaper. Perhaps the 360 gets a cool motion controller and outsells the PS3 or the PS3 will multiply sales after a price-drop. Who knows. In both cases making assumptions by extrapolating the past are useless.

This sales analysis fails on so many levels it is a joke. You assume that the sales rates will remain constant for the next 12months, 18 months and 24 months. WTH.

You question the Ps3 that is an insult to me. Ps3 will sell heaps more than the X360 over the next 12 months and I would easily see Ps3 overtaking X360 in worldwide total console sales during February 2009 or March 2009 at the latest.

Never underestimate the popularity and power of the Ps3 and the Sony brand.
Ps3 all the way.

PS3_Play_Beyond said: This sales analysis fails on so many levels it is a joke. You assume that the sales rates will remain constant for the next 12months, 18 months and 24 months. WTH. You question the Ps3 that is an insult to me. Ps3 will sell heaps more than the X360 over the next 12 months and I would easily see Ps3 overtaking X360 in worldwide total console sales during February 2009 or March 2009 at the latest. Never underestimate the popularity and power of the Ps3 and the Sony brand. Ps3 all the way.

 

watch out, you might get a troll warning too...just a heads-up

I did deserve mine though, it was a bit rough.

+1 for Kyros

I believe the PS3 as the most expensive console will see a big bump for Xmas sales as people like to buy expensive at the end the year.
I believe BR will continue to increase his market share and increase the value of the PS3 (balancing the expensive price of the console).
I believe not all the first party games will bomb as "Lair".
I believe a PS3 at 300$ will appear "somewhere" in 09.

MS should have dropped the price in 07.

PS3_Play_Beyond said: This sales analysis fails on so many levels it is a joke. You assume that the sales rates will remain constant for the next 12months, 18 months and 24 months. WTH. You question the Ps3 that is an insult to me. Ps3 will sell heaps more than the X360 over the next 12 months and I would easily see Ps3 overtaking X360 in worldwide total console sales during February 2009 or March 2009 at the latest. Never underestimate the popularity and power of the Ps3 and the Sony brand. Ps3 all the way.

Maths sux.

Impossible feats that disprove maths roxor.

 

Over Xmas sales period Ps3 should outsell X360 by 2 to 3 million consoles