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trestres on 25 August 2008

@Paul Warren: So only IGN scores count now? Who are they? God?

Why can't people like games that don't have a 100% average score? Go ask 1000 random people about Heavenly Sword or Wii sports and see what are the results. The game is a hit, and brought non-gamers, casuals and hardcore to play it.

You can say whatever you want but the masses will determine what is or what isn't a success.



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woopah on 25 August 2008

wow this thread is getting pretty crazy with a lot of off topic stuff
i may as wel add my own errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
NEW JAMES BOND ON WII HAS EXCLUSIVE 4 PLAYER SPLITSCREEN!



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Stever89 on 25 August 2008
woopah said:
wow this thread is getting pretty crazy with a lot of off topic stuff
i may as wel add my own errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
NEW JAMES BOND ON WII HAS EXCLUSIVE 4 PLAYER SPLITSCREEN!

And the other consoles have exclusive HD graphics! HA.

Wait.



TWRoO on 25 August 2008
Paul_Warren said:

"What's your point? Nintendo made the best games if we go by your logic. You failed pretty hard, it hurted me."

Oh well. Maybe I'm not very logical. I do use more than one source of information to form my opinions though so that could be where the confusion arises. See, there were several PS2 games that were much better than Metroid Prime according to IGN. And According to IGN The Ocarina of Time is no better than MGS 4 and GTA IV, and I find myself agreeing with that more than I do the idea that Ocarina is the best game of all time. However, if you take Dave Halverson's statement in Play's recent Report on the 7th gen that Wii Sports is the most overrated game of this console generation, combine that with IGN's review of the game that said its only a 7.6 and its Metacritic score of 76, and you find yourself not wanting to play the game all that much. However, if you look at IGN's rating for Heavenly Sword a 7.0, then go look at Dave Halverson's review of the game in Play where he gave it a 10 and explained very succintly why people that are more in the mainstream were judging it unfairly, decide to buy the game, play it, and see that it is pretty good, and then see that its Metacritic score has become more respectable over the last year or so, then you'll think that yes the game wound up being much better than one source said it was.

Although you haven't replied to me yet, I am going to have to give up on you because you are spewing bullshit... now suddenly you are "forming opinions from more than 1 source" which means you are picking and choosing whichever source you like best.

I am pretty sure looking at IGN I could find a PS3 game you like rated lower than a Wii game you decided you won't like... from which you will either turn back to metacritic if that agrees with you, or else find another source of information.

And it seems the majority of people don't agree with you or Dave Halverson about Wii Sports... it happens to be one of the most played games of a Wii owner... with an average of around 30-35 hours time spent on it per owner.... which is generally 2nd, 3rd or 4th of all Wii games (depending on the country) and usually close to Fire Emblem.
An average of 30-35 hours per peson is a hell of a lot, considering that the average amount of time people (normal users not us "avid gamers") spend on a game is likely around 9-10 hours.

 



peachbuggy on 25 August 2008

1. Paul_Warren, you are now using a PS3! Source to back up your bias. Well they're not really gonna be impartial now are they?

2. GET YOUR OWN OPINION!



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Paul_Warren on 25 August 2008

"It's odd because everyone I have asked about it has prefered Mario Kart Wii over MK Double Dash, and most over MK64.... and yet the ratings on metacritic don't seem to reflect that."

You expect more out of a current gen game than what you got out of a last gen game. MKWii may have motion controls, but like most Madden games of recent years it really hasn't built upon the older games all that much. It's still a cartoony kart racer and it will never grow out of that mold.



"It's also odd that most people on here who own GTA4 seem to be of the opinion that it is inferior to either Vice City, San Andreas or just GTA3, and yet the reviews don't seem to reflect that either.

Similarly I can't say I have heard many people who actually own Mario Kart Wii complain about it, just 1 issue being the friend list restricted to 30 users (although you can have 4 friend lists) Wheras many people have been complaining about GTAIV, be it glitches or just generally being dull once the story is complete."

Here are the three main groups of people that have raised issues with GTA IV. 360 fans that didn't like the fact that critics were saying the PS3 version had better graphics, etc, so they decided to complain about the game and say it didn't deserve a 10, people that prefer fairy tales, and those that didn't like it because it didn't have the same "gangsta cool" as San Andreas and didn't like that it chose to concentrate on Eastern Europeans instead when that is actually a much more interesting story on an international level.



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11ht11 on 25 August 2008

whats this thread about?



Paul_Warren on 25 August 2008

Are you talking about Play? Play is not a PS3 only source it is a multi-console source and it is the direct descendant of the greatest American Videogame Magazine of All Time Dave Halverson's Diehard Gamefan.


"1. Paul_Warren, you are now using a PS3! Source to back up your bias. Well they're not really gonna be impartial now are they? "



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

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DMeisterJ on 25 August 2008
trestres said:

@Paul Warren: So only IGN scores count now? Who are they? God?

Basically.

I take IGNs reviews like law :P

Anyhoo, what's this thread about?  Too many pages to read.


TWRoO on 25 August 2008
Paul_Warren said:
"It's odd because everyone I have asked about it has prefered Mario Kart Wii over MK Double Dash, and most over MK64.... and yet the ratings on metacritic don't seem to reflect that."

You expect more out of a current gen game than what you got out of a last gen game. MKWii may have motion controls, but like most Madden games of recent years it really hasn't built upon the older games all that much. It's still a cartoony kart racer and it will never grow out of that mold.

That is true... but people generally give opinions based on the time they played it, which is why OoT is thought of higher than WW or TP even though both surpass OoT considerably.



"It's also odd that most people on here who own GTA4 seem to be of the opinion that it is inferior to either Vice City, San Andreas or just GTA3, and yet the reviews don't seem to reflect that either.

Similarly I can't say I have heard many people who actually own Mario Kart Wii complain about it, just 1 issue being the friend list restricted to 30 users (although you can have 4 friend lists) Wheras many people have been complaining about GTAIV, be it glitches or just generally being dull once the story is complete."

Here are the three main groups of people that have raised issues with GTA IV. 360 fans that didn't like the fact that critics were saying the PS3 version had better graphics, etc, so they decided to complain about the game and say it didn't deserve a 10, people that prefer fairy tales, and those that didn't like it because it didn't have the same "gangsta cool" as San Andreas and didn't like that it chose to concentrate on Eastern Europeans instead when that is actually a much more interesting story on an international level.

So now you are deciding peoples opinons for them... ok that's nice of you, but most of the people complaining about it didn't seem to be bothered about "gangster cool", neither was the split significantly in favour of X360 (obviously it was somewhat because it has sold more copies on X360)

I actually said what people were complaning about, which was it being dull, and *shock* more of the same, as if it never grew out of the GTA mold (and glitches being another complaint... mostly crashing PS3s early on, but those are fixed now I think) and yet you seem to have ignored what I said and invented your own reasons for complaints.