Joke?

And seriously, it's not that PC gaming is hassle free, but you guys seem to completely ignore (on purpose) that some of these things happen on consoles too.

Like FishyJoe would say, that's cherry-picking.

Not a joke, still a problem, get out off denial, 360 has good games crappy hw accept it and move on.

Not every game is on Steam, but I agree it's pretty nice (although still kind of hassle-filled).

I agree with everyone that says PC-Wii is cool, that's what I've got right now. (although admittedly I play my cousin's 360 and PS3 a lot when I go over to his house...and his PC sometimes too)

It's just that the hassles sometimes...

Take Spore. It's coming out in what, 2 weeks?

First I'll need to defragment my computer, but since I got a stupidly small hard drive on this laptop (I'm getting a desktop next time!) I have too little space to defragment. I hardly have any games left on this hard drive, I've transferred most over to my little external. (some breaking, some still working)

So now I need to take an hour transfering over all of my Sims 2 files over to the external (Which I did yesterday...I'm still too scared to check if it'll work...if I have to reinstall every Sims 2 expansion I WILL explode) harddrive...

Then I'll need to defragment for an hour.

I finally go to the store to pick up the game, and put it in the computer. I go through the steps, type in DJDF-11K2-LEEL-8G90 (or whatever) code and hope it works. Judging how my past few PC installations have worked, it will most likely freeze (Spore Creature Creator and like 90% of any game I've ever installed). I try again, restart install, and it will hopefully work. Alternatively, it will install near to the very end and freeze. At this point, I will need to go into the half-installed folders of the game and delete them. (it took me seven hours to install CivIV and BtS because of crap like this)

Finally, I'll get the game installed. EA commands me to use their crappy download service that will probably lock up. It will have shipped full of bugs so I'll be forced to immediately download a patch, which will probably not be compatiable and ask me to reinstall the game. Or more likely, it will not be patched and be even buggier.

I will now attempt to start "Spore" up. Hopefully it will not crash while starting up at the EA logo, like Spore Creature Creator.

Hopefully I can register it online, and there will be no stupid invisible rules. (Spore Creature Creator would not let me register for 2 days, till someone on the forums informed me "Does your username have "Spore" in it? Remove it and see if it works." I removed it, and of course, it worked...why wouldn't they tell you not to put Spore in your username?)

If for some reason it has installed faulty and I need to reinstall, I might be in trouble because of EA's lousy new policy where you can only install things 3 times or something. I also now have SecuROM on my computer, a dangerous anti-pirate software that has been known to ruin computers.

Anyway, so now Spore works. Unfortunately, because my computer isn't upgraded recently, it looks lousy-ish and chugs sometimes. It's also probably full of EA's typical bugs, which will cause my entire species to turn into purple blobs with the with only a mouth and legs when I reach the tribal stage. (EA's Sims 2 Open for Business expansion is probably one of the glitchest games ever made. I swear they didn't beta test it in the slightest. All of the Sims 2 expansions- scratch that, EVERY EA game is like that)

Hopefully I can get past these minor performance issues and now play "Spore" and explode into ooze at the amazing, and I will completely forget about all of the bad parts of PC gaming...only to be reminded when "The Sims 3" comes out...

It's so longwinded compared to getting a new DS or Wii game.

Let's say I want a DS game:

I go to store. I buy game. I go home. I open game, glance at the manual, put it in DS. Play game. I don't have to worry about installing it, or reinstalling it, or my DS not having been upgraded recently enough so it looks ugly, or defragmenting, or hard drive space or any of this PC frustration!

Let's say I want a Wii game:

I go to store. I buy game. I go home. I open game, glance at the manual, put it in DS. Play game. I don't have to worry about installing it, or reinstalling it, or my Wii not having been upgraded recently enough so it looks ugly, or defragmenting, or hard drive space (Well, actually...stupid VC and WiiWare) or any of this PC frustration!

/rant

P.S. PC has the best games

@OP

yes and no. Sometimes for whatever reason I get a game that just does not want to run well on my PC. But that's a rarity as long as I've got decent hardware. But the flipside is, that never happens on a console.

Consoles as a whole are definately more user friendly. For PC gaming it does take more of an investment of time just to know how to game on a PC effectively.

man you PC complainers are spoiled and whiny. I've been playing PC games since the 8mhz 8088 architecture. After all these years my only complaint are patches. Considering that nowdays even the HDD based consoles are getting patches. Well tough.

This.

Because big-budget makes all games amazing, right? What you just wrote is completely stupid. You should know already that budget only helps you make a better game, but it doesn't autmatically make it a good game... see Too Human, Lair or Haze for example. Developers can make excelent games with low budget, and many developers do so, like Simbin or Telltale games, they don't have big financial backings but they still make great games like GTR and Sam & Max. Judge a game by it's quality, not budget.

Another stupid arguement of yours is if it's a niche game. It's ok if you don't like that type of game, but dismiss thousands of games because they're from niche genres??? That just stupid of you. If FPS games were niche, would you dismiss Bioshock, Crysis, Orange Box and ignore a bunch of other games?

Platformers and JRPGs are niches, so let's ignore Super Mario Galaxy and Final Fantasy XIII because we're "hardcore" - Sponsored by Garcian Smith.

If Mushroom Men had a budget of $500k, would you stop buying it and say that it has a budget too low for you? Even if the game turned to be brilliant? What matters is quality, not budget.
And again, if Mushroom Men was from a niche, would you stop buying it and say it was too niche?? Even if you would love the game? What matters is taste, not idiotic assumptions like "niche = crap".

Hey, let's compare the exclusive RPGs between PC and X360, since X360's launch.

X360:
Blue Dragon
Eternal Sonata
Lost Odissey

PC:
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
Lord of the Rings Online
Guild Wars Nightfall
Guild Wars Factions
Guild Wars: Eye of the North
Neverwinter Nights 2
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
The Witcher
Age of Conan
Spellforce 2: Shadow Wars
Titan Quest
Tabula Rasa
Dungeon Runners
And more...

There's no constest on RPGs. PC wins heavily in quality, quantity and variety.

PC has several good recent racing games, like pure simulation such as GTR 2, Race 07, rFactor and the upcoming GTR Evolution. And there's Trackmania United Forever. To be honest, PC doesn't really crush X360 in Racing games, but I still think it has a better lineup of Racing.

And now a word from our Sponsor:

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Crysis
Stalker
Battlefield 2142
Red Orchestra

There more but these were the most sonant. The thing is, what good FPS does X360 have against PC? Only Crackdown and Bad Company?

So far this gen the best combo to me is;
PC... PC actually. Consoles are losing their appeal to me, the PS3 and the 360 essentially want to be a PC (much like the scrawny kid that tries out for the football team each year, hoping and crashing every time) and the Wii just doesn't do it for me.
A truly sad and boring generation, this, I surely hope it picks up either in a couple of years or at least till next generation swings around.
Also; console games are way too expensive imo, PC titles (even the same games) cost 20-25% less most of the time so it seems a win, win win situation to me.
Racers, platformers and beat 'em up's are a total no no on PC though, which is fine so long as there's basically nothing desirable in any of the above genres out for any console yet (desirable as in "makes we want that console").

It's called Super Mario Galaxy, and frankly, if you've ever had a mild interest in platformers, you should immediately pick up a Wii and SMG. It's that good.

touche.

But it's the same company that makes windows though ..lol .. we see a tendency here ?

We need a proper alternative. (not mac, but something that can run exe files etc and is user friendly.. and stuff)