Of course"THEY" would say that *rolls eyes*  but the truth is that a downloaded HD movie does NOT i reapeat does NOT have the same PQ as a blu-ray disc, it cant.. why? for one the bitrate (do you even know what that is?) is no where near as high a blu-ray disc. blu-ray max bitrate is 40mbps and most movies adverage around 35mbps downlaoded or streamed movie is no where near that! were talking maby 8 or 10mbps and i think its even less! and another bad thing is that all dowloaded movies online are compressed badly. they dont have the bandwith to support it, just like cable and dish network. they new turboHD has movies now in 1080p and they say it has the same PQ and blu-ray.....WRONG for the same reasons i just explained.

Also come to think of it. I can pay $10 a month and rent out one HD movie at a time. $14.99 gets me 2 at a time.

Xbox users pay $10 and rent out as many HD movies at a time all day and night every month?

If true, expect HUGE issues with the current 8million + user subscription base.

This is why I do not think it as people think it is.

I would call them up and demand a free box to stream to my TV. I would expect many others to do the same.

Personally, I think many of you are in for disappointment.

don't know why those NA movie companys give up on HD DVD
as FILM quality of HD DVD is so much better than Blu Ray

To answer the question in this thread's title: No. It has only further made clear to me that Sony are so desperate to improve sales of their machines that they don't even seem to know themselves just what the heck they're doing anymore..

If thats how you feel then fine thers nothing wrong with that. but im more than happy with my ps3 and see no reason to own another system,the ps3 has all the games i want......nice Predictions.

I think people make big mistake seeing blu ray as something that will win the War for sony, HD adoption rates are still very low, and so are blu ray sales compared to standard DVD. Blu ray is still a luxury owned by a few, and this is not going to change quickly. Most people that buy movies still dont care if they HD or not (like myself).

People say streaming can overtake optical Blu ray, hell blu ray at the moment is nowhere near overtaking DVD's.

And i think in near future digital download will be a big competition to BR, it's just a matter of time. Sony needs more than blue ray and 10 year plan to pass Xbox, because Wii is out of their range.

ps. It is v. arguable that MGS4 is the best game this generation, but it's your opinion.

Euphoria14 said: selnor said: Euphoria14 said: I see people talking about Bluray being nullified because of the Netflix agreement. Do any of these people even have a Netflix account? People are saying they are constantly adding HD movies. Yes, they are, but only Bluray. Instant view movies are SD only, no HD option for viewing. I use the instant view feature sometimes. I hear people saying "download" as well, the movies are streamed. Also 10,000 movies, yes. Have you seen the selection as I have? Majority of it is B rated movies or old classic films. New releases are not added and the newest selection that I have seen in the last few days that is not a B rated low budget Zombie flick is from 2005-2006. Looking for high budget top notch films? You won't find them anywhere on Netflix instant view. Take this from a 2 year subscriber.   You obviously missed the E3 announcement where they said that Netflix in particular for Live are releasing the HD films as quick as possible. And on Live they are instant downloads. Are you aware that MS have paid money to them to have the latest films available straight away? How do you think they make money if everything is free for Live gold users? In the demo they showed the titles of films like The Bourne Ultimatum, Hitman and Pirates of The Caribean. Also my latest 360 mag have actually had the privelege of watching Pirates of The carribean 3 in 1080p downloaded from Netflix via Live and said that on their Toshiba 50" there was no noticeable difference from any BLU RAY FILM quality.   It is not free for Gold Users. You have to pay the Netflix account subscription along with the Gold Live subscription. You still fail to understand that there is no possible way you are getting unlimited downloads for just the $10 netflix subscription price. If so, netflix would seriously piss off their current userbase. Why do we pay $10-20 for unlimited downloads of trash at SD settings and XBox users supposedly get unlimited downloads of new released HD movies? Wouldn't this also make the XBox live movie marketplace useless too? Download Pirates for $6.00 in HD or pay $10 and watch Pirates, Hitman, etc... all in on night, in one sitting, then watch 4 more movies the next day, all new releases, all day all night. Something is wrong here. I don't think it is as you say it is. If you get those downloads, they will without a doubt have some charge to it.

 

I think I'm being misunderstood. Yes you have to pay for an unlimited Netflix subscription which I believe is at lowest now $8.99/month. However the comment about free at the press conference for Live gold users was aimed at the HD films. This is where some deal between them comes in. The point of still supplying films on Live with single prices is obviously for those who dont want to pay monthly. What ever the cost it saves me thousands of pounds not buying BLU RAY films at £20 a time here in the UK.

 

To those who mention quality issues. It is not noticable to the average user. Jeez.

And yes even on pc streaming netflix you can watch as many as you want with no hourly limit like there used to be.

nobody in hear said in will win the war for sony, we were talking about compairing it to netflix and dowlnoads.....and downloads aint no match for blu-ray disc.

selnor said: Euphoria14 said: selnor said: Euphoria14 said: I see people talking about Bluray being nullified because of the Netflix agreement. Do any of these people even have a Netflix account? People are saying they are constantly adding HD movies. Yes, they are, but only Bluray. Instant view movies are SD only, no HD option for viewing. I use the instant view feature sometimes. I hear people saying "download" as well, the movies are streamed. Also 10,000 movies, yes. Have you seen the selection as I have? Majority of it is B rated movies or old classic films. New releases are not added and the newest selection that I have seen in the last few days that is not a B rated low budget Zombie flick is from 2005-2006. Looking for high budget top notch films? You won't find them anywhere on Netflix instant view. Take this from a 2 year subscriber.   You obviously missed the E3 announcement where they said that Netflix in particular for Live are releasing the HD films as quick as possible. And on Live they are instant downloads. Are you aware that MS have paid money to them to have the latest films available straight away? How do you think they make money if everything is free for Live gold users? In the demo they showed the titles of films like The Bourne Ultimatum, Hitman and Pirates of The Caribean. Also my latest 360 mag have actually had the privelege of watching Pirates of The carribean 3 in 1080p downloaded from Netflix via Live and said that on their Toshiba 50" there was no noticeable difference from any BLU RAY FILM quality.   It is not free for Gold Users. You have to pay the Netflix account subscription along with the Gold Live subscription. You still fail to understand that there is no possible way you are getting unlimited downloads for just the $10 netflix subscription price. If so, netflix would seriously piss off their current userbase. Why do we pay $10-20 for unlimited downloads of trash at SD settings and XBox users supposedly get unlimited downloads of new released HD movies? Wouldn't this also make the XBox live movie marketplace useless too? Download Pirates for $6.00 in HD or pay $10 and watch Pirates, Hitman, etc... all in on night, in one sitting, then watch 4 more movies the next day, all new releases, all day all night. Something is wrong here. I don't think it is as you say it is. If you get those downloads, they will without a doubt have some charge to it.   I think I'm being misunderstood. Yes you have to pay for an unlimited Netflix subscription which I believe is at lowest now $8.99/month. However the comment about free at the press conference for Live gold users was aimed at the HD films. This is where some deal between them comes in. The point of still supplying films on Live with single prices is obviously for those who dont want to pay monthly. What ever the cost it saves me thousands of pounds not buying BLU RAY films at £20 a time here in the UK.   To those who mention quality issues. It is not noticable to the average user. Jeez.

 

Now of course those will need to have limitations to how many can be downloaded per day. I can not imagine unlimited all day long. It would just be too unfair to users like me who only have an SD selection, need to wait for delivery, and better yet... need to pay more.

Either way, $10 gets me next day delivery for all my Bluray needs, so how does this hurt exactly? How many silver members, who already have access to the XBox Live movie store are going to shell out $100 a year for Netflix access (Netflix + Gold)?

This is not going to make anywhere near as big an impact as people think. This is my opinion.

I think MS needs to stop worrying about get into everything and just start focusing on spending their money on getting some 1st party dev studios. Wouldn't you agree?

Euphoria14 said: Also come to think of it. I can pay $10 a month and rent out one HD movie at a time. $14.99 gets me 2 at a time. Xbox users pay $10 and rent out as many HD movies at a time all day and night every month? If true, expect HUGE issues with the current 8million + user subscription base. This is why I do not think it as people think it is. I would call them up and demand a free box to stream to my TV. I would expect many others to do the same. Personally, I think many of you are in for disappointment.

 

http://www.roku.com/

This deal simply makes it so you don't have to buy their box to stream unlimited content because the 360 takes the place of owning a roku.