Netflix is cool and all, but it only has 8 million subscribers. Sure it'll probably grow, but that still isn't monumental. And if you have to have Live Gold, then it'll cost you $50 a year for the Live membership plus about $15/month for Netflix to take advantage of netflix streaming. I can guarantee you the average consumer doesn't buy $230 worth of movies a year. Netflix doesn't negate Blu Ray in the slightest.

Those HD films that are in 1080p are compressed to hell, a streaming or downloaded HD movie can in no way compare to a blu-ray disc, look it up. and those 10,000 film from nerflix on xbox live are all in SD. and again you need to already be a member to use, i dont know what gives you the idea that this can compeat with blu-ray. NOTHING will every compare to have a big screen TV a reciever with a 5.1 or 7.1 sound system, and people like having something physical to collect. disc based media will never go away, why would you put thousands of movies on a hard drive? what if it crashes? people will always want something thay can hold in there hads and put on a shelf......if anything netflix will HELP blu-ray, people will rent a blu-ray disc to see if they like it then buy it.

Oh an check Euphoria's post above mine. The streaming selection on Netflix is weak at best and flat out sucks at worst.

Euphoria14 said: I see people talking about Bluray being nullified because of the Netflix agreement. Do any of these people even have a Netflix account? People are saying they are constantly adding HD movies. Yes, they are, but only Bluray. Instant view movies are SD only, no HD option for viewing. I use the instant view feature sometimes. I hear people saying "download" as well, the movies are streamed. Also 10,000 movies, yes. Have you seen the selection as I have? Majority of it is B rated movies or old classic films. New releases are not added and the newest selection that I have seen in the last few days that is not a B rated low budget Zombie flick is from 2005-2006. Looking for high budget top notch films? You won't find them anywhere on Netflix instant view. Take this from a 2 year subscriber.

 

You obviously missed the E3 announcement where they said that Netflix in particular for Live are releasing the HD films as quick as possible. And on Live they are instant downloads. Are you aware that MS have paid money to them to have the latest films available straight away? How do you think they make money if everything is free for Live gold users? In the demo they showed the titles of films like The Bourne Ultimatum, Hitman and Pirates of The Caribean. Also my latest 360 mag have actually had the privelege of watching Pirates of The carribean 3 in 1080p downloaded from Netflix via Live and said that on their Toshiba 50" there was no noticeable difference from any BLU RAY FILM quality.

Also, for streaming movies, aren't you going to need a hard drive 360?

selnor said: Euphoria14 said: I see people talking about Bluray being nullified because of the Netflix agreement. Do any of these people even have a Netflix account? People are saying they are constantly adding HD movies. Yes, they are, but only Bluray. Instant view movies are SD only, no HD option for viewing. I use the instant view feature sometimes. I hear people saying "download" as well, the movies are streamed. Also 10,000 movies, yes. Have you seen the selection as I have? Majority of it is B rated movies or old classic films. New releases are not added and the newest selection that I have seen in the last few days that is not a B rated low budget Zombie flick is from 2005-2006. Looking for high budget top notch films? You won't find them anywhere on Netflix instant view. Take this from a 2 year subscriber.   You obviously missed the E3 announcement where they said that Netflix in particular for Live are releasing the HD films as quick as possible. And on Live they are instant downloads. Are you aware that MS have paid money to them to have the latest films available straight away? How do you think they make money if everything is free for Live gold users? In the demo they showed the titles of films like The Bourne Ultimatum, Hitman and Pirates of The Caribean. Also my latest 360 mag have actually had the privelege of watching Pirates of The carribean 3 in 1080p downloaded from Netflix via Live and said that on their Toshiba 50" there was no noticeable difference from any BLU RAY FILM quality.

 

It is not free for Gold Users.

You have to pay the Netflix account subscription along with the Gold Live subscription.

You still fail to understand that there is no possible way you are getting unlimited downloads for just the $10 netflix subscription price.

If so, netflix would seriously piss off their current userbase. Why do we pay $10-20 for unlimited downloads of trash at SD settings and XBox users supposedly get unlimited downloads of new released HD movies?

Wouldn't this also make the XBox live movie marketplace useless too?

Download Pirates for $6.00 in HD or pay $10 and watch Pirates, Hitman, etc... all in on night, in one sitting, then watch 4 more movies the next day, all new releases, all day all night.

Something is wrong here. I don't think it is as you say it is.

If you get those downloads, they will without a doubt have some charge to it.

Press_the_Button said: The PS3 to me always seems to be on the cusp of delivering something big - the big games always seem to be out next year - but it never actually seems to deliver it. Take for example, 2008, it was meant to be the year of the PS3 yet, so far to me at least, it's been dissappointing. Maybe with the release of LBP, Resistance 2 and Home it'll finally deliver on it's potential for me.

So the release of arguably the best game this generation (MGS4) was disappointing to you? Damn!

 

selnor said: Euphoria14 said: I see people talking about Bluray being nullified because of the Netflix agreement. Do any of these people even have a Netflix account? People are saying they are constantly adding HD movies. Yes, they are, but only Bluray. Instant view movies are SD only, no HD option for viewing. I use the instant view feature sometimes. I hear people saying "download" as well, the movies are streamed. Also 10,000 movies, yes. Have you seen the selection as I have? Majority of it is B rated movies or old classic films. New releases are not added and the newest selection that I have seen in the last few days that is not a B rated low budget Zombie flick is from 2005-2006. Looking for high budget top notch films? You won't find them anywhere on Netflix instant view. Take this from a 2 year subscriber.   You obviously missed the E3 announcement where they said that Netflix in particular for Live are releasing the HD films as quick as possible. And on Live they are instant downloads. Are you aware that MS have paid money to them to have the latest films available straight away? How do you think they make money if everything is free for Live gold users? In the demo they showed the titles of films like The Bourne Ultimatum, Hitman and Pirates of The Caribean. Also my latest 360 mag have actually had the privelege of watching Pirates of The carribean 3 in 1080p downloaded from Netflix via Live and said that on their Toshiba 50" there was no noticeable difference from any BLU RAY FILM quality.

Dude I'm sorry if I offended you earlier don't take what I said personally though. I just can't see streaming movies overtaking optical media as fast as you are predicting it...the argument is as simple as that. I can sit here and think of many reasons why that is, such as the fact that people prefer buying discs and owning a box set rather than going online...or we can wait and see what happens once more and more people begin to buy HDTVs.

 

selnor said: Euphoria14 said: I see people talking about Bluray being nullified because of the Netflix agreement. Do any of these people even have a Netflix account? People are saying they are constantly adding HD movies. Yes, they are, but only Bluray. Instant view movies are SD only, no HD option for viewing. I use the instant view feature sometimes. I hear people saying "download" as well, the movies are streamed. Also 10,000 movies, yes. Have you seen the selection as I have? Majority of it is B rated movies or old classic films. New releases are not added and the newest selection that I have seen in the last few days that is not a B rated low budget Zombie flick is from 2005-2006. Looking for high budget top notch films? You won't find them anywhere on Netflix instant view. Take this from a 2 year subscriber.   You obviously missed the E3 announcement where they said that Netflix in particular for Live are releasing the HD films as quick as possible. And on Live they are instant downloads. Are you aware that MS have paid money to them to have the latest films available straight away? How do you think they make money if everything is free for Live gold users? In the demo they showed the titles of films like The Bourne Ultimatum, Hitman and Pirates of The Caribean. Also my latest 360 mag have actually had the privelege of watching Pirates of The carribean 3 in 1080p downloaded from Netflix via Live and said that on their Toshiba 50" there was no noticeable difference from any BLU RAY FILM quality.

Just b/c they demoed a few new movies doesn't necessarily mean they're going to have all the latest and greatest. I hope they do, but there's still a huge price hurdle (as mentioned in my previous posts) that prevents Netflix from negating Blu Ray.

 

kitler53 said: perpride said: selnor said: talkingparrot said: Press_the_Button said: ...   ...   ... There are only two games on the 360 that are needed on the PS3: Gears of War and Lost Oddyssey. That's it. If you want to talk about the shortage of exclusives, the only console with a decent number of upcoming games is the Wii. At least 80 Percent of Hi Def games coming out are coming to both consoles at this point. Edit - To those who think that Netflix on 360 is even a challenge to Blu Ray: LMFAO ahahahhahahahha fucking noob. how does it not challenge it? i don't have a blu-ray player and netflix (with its HD downloads) means i will never have to. counting sales: netflix +1, blu-ray +0

The same way that Dreamcast challenged PS2...and HD DVD challenged Blu Ray.

@selnor - I would never say no to any game, let alone the brilliant titles you named. That's why I said Gears and Lost Odyssey were the only games the PS3 needs. Both consoles have their fare share of exclusives, but I'd say that the 360 is also pretty well on its own. The only PS3 titles that it needs are Uncharted, MGS4 and Warhawk. By need I pretty much mean its a shame that owners of any single HD system wouldn't get to play the games that were just mentioned.