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steven787 on 15 August 2008
HappySqurriel said:
reask said:
HappySqurriel said:
xman said:
reask said:

My point been what is it exactly.
Why would i want to keep fit on a console.
As I said originally it holds no interest for me as a gaming console.

btw my daughter got the wii for xmas.

I took the batteries out of the controller some weeks ago so they would'nt leak.

Thats how much the wii is used in my house.

 

Thats dosent bode well for me I got my daughter one for this christmas, I think she will like it

 

I would (generally) ignore comments like that on web forums ...

They are part of the paradox where every "Hard-Core" Wii owner isn't buying games and their Wii system is collecting dust, while "Casual" gamers never buy games and only play Wii Sports, yet the Wii is selling (roughly) as much software per system-month as the XBox 360/PS3 are. I'm not saying that these people are lying about what they see, but I do believe that their experience is not representitive of the market as a whole; quite possibly reask's problem is that he didn't buy games that really interested his daughter.

The last game I got for her was mario kart that is what she wanted.

She did knock good fun out of it for a while.

I played it myself with her a few times.

Since that she has only asked for ds games.

Anyway heres a question to you, do you wish there were more ps360 type games on it.

 

For the most part, not really ...

I own an XBox 360 that I bought refurbished because it was cheap and I use it (far) more as a media center than as a gaming machine. This hasn't been from lack of trying to play games either, and through canflix I have rented a large chunk of the 'Best' titles that are available for the PS3/XBox 360 and have (so far) been mostly disapointed with how horribly over-rated many of these games are ... a lot of the games are not necessarily bad, but I find myself getting about 4 hours into them and find myself amazingly bored because I have played the exact same game several times over the past decade.

This doesn't mean that I wouldn't want games in similar genres, or games produced at a similar level of 'quality' ... but I really want to see games move past the basic forumula that was established in 1998.

 

I agree, I like a good RPG or Shooter still, but I don't feel like I need more of them.

I keep talking about me buying a 360, this is for the JRPGs and, more so, for the really good original stuff on XBLA.

Same goes for PS3, I am looking forward to making levels in LBP and playing Fat Princess OverweightBig Boned Royal.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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MikeB on 15 August 2008

I didn't think the Wii would perform badly. For the long run I thought it would certainly beat XBox, GameCube and 360.

Quoting myself from 2006:

"I feel confident the Nintendo Wii will do well though due to its innovative gameplay, but I miss a good Mario64 equivalent / beater."

> If the Wii fails spectacularly it could perhaps be Nintendo's last (non-portable) console.

"I don't think the Wii will fail, I think it will do better than the Nintendo GameCube did."

I do however think the hype will die down eventually and interest will slow in 2009, but IMO 2008 will still be a great year for the Nintendo Wii.



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xman on 15 August 2008
dib8rman said:
Some people, including myself at a point forgot what gaming is about, the core reason why we play video games, why that playing became concern, concern about the industry that provides us something to play.

Some people forgot what convinced them to try games.

1. No strangers
No one want's strangers in thier homes, this applies to all things strange, gaming began in the public eye for all to see, the arcade theme introduced us to competition without sacrifice and adventure without fear. Interacting through our favorite personas in thier enviornment. Gaming became familiar and now consoles had a place in the home. Here it was all about presentation and continuity, the game had to do the job.

2. My pal
Even then value takes a toll, games with multiple ports allowed for 2 player interactivity with the above described details, the arcade feel revisited in the home, games like street fighter and mega man, like mario and pac man, and sonic and so on convinced people that the value was there. The multiplayer concept started here, the want for randomness was asked for the most around this time frame which continues today as 'great AI'.

It's that simple, we play games because we want to have fun, because we want to have fun with others and because we are familiar with games is why we care about the gaming industry.

So where in all of that, do the margins come in to play, where do the demographics apply!? Why are barriers made for people who play certain games, why compartmentalize gamers and build a fence around yourselves?

Since when did Nintendo having Mortal Combat stop Sega owners from enjoying thier Mortal Combat.

This may all be Nintendo's fault =/ They make superb games, that only appear on thier platform... not many people want to own multiple consoles.. to the ones who wanted the values of the HD console more they wanted to see Nintendo go under and not because the Wii is left field but because it could mean Nintendo would become a 3rd party software developer/publisher, just like Sega.

Just my rant/

What got me into gaming was most likely Ninja turtles on the arcade... or that pizza deliver game.

 

That may be true but since Sega went multplatform has there games not been as good?



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

steven787 on 15 August 2008
xman said:

 

That may be true but since Sega went multplatform has there games not been as good?

 

I think your missing the fact that Wii hardware sells so good because of their good software.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

xman on 15 August 2008
steven787 said:
xman said:

 

That may be true but since Sega went multplatform has there games not been as good?

 

I think your missing the fact that Wii hardware sells so good because of their good software.

 

I agree I would say Nintendo is probably the top game publisher in the world, what I am saying is back in the day sega made great games since they went multiplatform there games have not been as good.  If nintendo went muti platofrom would there game quality suffer was my point. 

Just to clarify Nintendo is not going multi plat they are making tons on money on the WII, we are talking hypothetically



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

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xman on 15 August 2008
steven787 said:
HappySqurriel said:
reask said:
HappySqurriel said:
xman said:
reask said:

My point been what is it exactly.
Why would i want to keep fit on a console.
As I said originally it holds no interest for me as a gaming console.

btw my daughter got the wii for xmas.

I took the batteries out of the controller some weeks ago so they would'nt leak.

Thats how much the wii is used in my house.

 

Thats dosent bode well for me I got my daughter one for this christmas, I think she will like it

 

I would (generally) ignore comments like that on web forums ...

They are part of the paradox where every "Hard-Core" Wii owner isn't buying games and their Wii system is collecting dust, while "Casual" gamers never buy games and only play Wii Sports, yet the Wii is selling (roughly) as much software per system-month as the XBox 360/PS3 are. I'm not saying that these people are lying about what they see, but I do believe that their experience is not representitive of the market as a whole; quite possibly reask's problem is that he didn't buy games that really interested his daughter.

The last game I got for her was mario kart that is what she wanted.

She did knock good fun out of it for a while.

I played it myself with her a few times.

Since that she has only asked for ds games.

Anyway heres a question to you, do you wish there were more ps360 type games on it.

 

For the most part, not really ...

I own an XBox 360 that I bought refurbished because it was cheap and I use it (far) more as a media center than as a gaming machine. This hasn't been from lack of trying to play games either, and through canflix I have rented a large chunk of the 'Best' titles that are available for the PS3/XBox 360 and have (so far) been mostly disapointed with how horribly over-rated many of these games are ... a lot of the games are not necessarily bad, but I find myself getting about 4 hours into them and find myself amazingly bored because I have played the exact same game several times over the past decade.

This doesn't mean that I wouldn't want games in similar genres, or games produced at a similar level of 'quality' ... but I really want to see games move past the basic forumula that was established in 1998.

 

I agree, I like a good RPG or Shooter still, but I don't feel like I need more of them.

I keep talking about me buying a 360, this is for the JRPGs and, more so, for the really good original stuff on XBLA.

Same goes for PS3, I am looking forward to making levels in LBP and playing Fat Princess OverweightBig Boned Royal.

 

The biggest change for me has been live and multiplayer.  Before the 360 I never went online.  Now when I play shooters R6, GRAW, GOW online its a totally new game and experience (and tons harder people online are insanely good most of the time) online changes how it plays



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

steven787 on 15 August 2008
xman said:
steven787 said:
xman said:

 

That may be true but since Sega went multplatform has there games not been as good?

 

I think your missing the fact that Wii hardware sells so good because of their good software.

 

I agree I would say Nintendo is probably the top game publisher in the world, what I am saying is back in the day sega made great games since they went multiplatform there games have not been as good.  If nintendo went muti platofrom would there game quality suffer was my point. 

Just to clarify Nintendo is not going multi plat they are making tons on money on the WII, we are talking hypothetically

 

Sega stopped making mostly great games about half way through the Genesis's life.

They still had some great games, but mostly the games were just good or mediocre (both in sales and quality)

This isn't the only reason for their exit of hardware, but it is a big part.

(Note: I owned a Genesis, Sega CD, and Dreamcast (which is one of my favorite consoles))

 



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

steven787 on 15 August 2008
xman said:
steven787 said:

 

I agree, I like a good RPG or Shooter still, but I don't feel like I need more of them.

I keep talking about me buying a 360, this is for the JRPGs and, more so, for the really good original stuff on XBLA.

Same goes for PS3, I am looking forward to making levels in LBP and playing Fat Princess OverweightBig Boned Royal.

 

The biggest change for me has been live and multiplayer.  Before the 360 I never went online.  Now when I play shooters R6, GRAW, GOW online its a totally new game and experience (and tons harder people online are insanely good most of the time) online changes how it plays

 

I think many people do not care about online play.

Reasons why I don't like it:

1. I suck at shooters, I hate being reminded how much I suck.

2. Teens and tweens, I do not like them.

3. Hateful language. Yes, I know I can turn off the voices, but then what's the point, I may as well play off line.

4. People starting matches they don't intend on finishing (Mostly an RTS problem)

5. Live costs money.

6. I don't like shooters or sports that much.

 

Edit: though many, many people are playing Mario Kart and SSBB Online... just go check out their 1000+ post threads.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

SmokedHostage on 15 August 2008

I remember when people called the NES a fad. Good times, good times.



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Obliterator1700 on 15 August 2008
xman said:
steven787 said:
xman said:
 

 

That may be true but since Sega went multplatform has there games not been as good?

 

I think your missing the fact that Wii hardware sells so good because of their good software.

 

I agree I would say Nintendo is probably the top game publisher in the world, what I am saying is back in the day sega made great games since they went multiplatform there games have not been as good.  If nintendo went muti platofrom would there game quality suffer was my point. 

Just to clarify Nintendo is not going multi plat they are making tons on money on the WII, we are talking hypothetically
Why in the world would Nintendo go Multiplatform?