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Most review sites including IGN said the PS3 version had better graphics than the 360 version and it continues to have a higher Game Rankings score right up until today. Many articles were posted last year in which Rockstar said the 360 version was the one that was holding up the game's development and it is still doing so as no released date has been set for the 360's fabled exclusive downloadable content for GTA IV.



"Is that why the game ran at a higher resolution and frame rate with AA on 360 with no install and the PS3 version ran at a lower resolution and frame rate with no AA even with the benefit of an install? Is that also why screens of the 360 were shown last year and screens and videos of the PS3 version didn't show up until this year?"



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

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Paul_Warren said:

Most review sites including IGN said the PS3 version had better graphics than the 360 version and it continues to have a higher Game Rankings score right up until today. Many articles were posted last year in which Rockstar said the 360 version was the one that was holding up the game's development and it is still doing so as no released date has been set for the 360's fabled exclusive downloadable content for GTA IV.



"Is that why the game ran at a higher resolution and frame rate with AA on 360 with no install and the PS3 version ran at a lower resolution and frame rate with no AA even with the benefit of an install? Is that also why screens of the 360 were shown last year and screens and videos of the PS3 version didn't show up until this year?"

 

Again, there were no screens or video footage of the PS3 version of the game shown until this year. Up until that point all the screens and video were from the 360 version. If the 360 version was holding the game back the opposite would have been true.

As for your graphics point, you are right that a lot of reviews preferred of the PS3 version but the 360 version is technically superior. The game runs at a higher resolution with a higher rate and AA. This puts more strain the hardware. Especially considering that unlike the PS3 version, everything has to be streamed from the disk.



 

"Again, there were no screens or video footage of the PS3 version of the game shown until this year. Up until that point all the screens and video were from the 360 version. If the 360 version was holding the game back the opposite would have been true."

     So I guess you're saying that major publications like Game Informer, IGN, and Play Magazine made up their articles where they quote Rockstar as saying the 360 version was holding up development of the game?

 

"As for your graphics point, you are right that a lot of reviews preferred of the PS3 version but the 360 version is technically superior. The game runs at a higher resolution with a higher rate and AA. This puts more strain the hardware. Especially considering that unlike the PS3 version, everything has to be streamed from the disk."

 

     Considering 360 failure rates then, I would be worried about playing a game on it that would put such a strain on its hardware.



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

Soriku said:
@forevercloud

I don't understand you. The PS3 version of FF XIII isn't going to be gimped at all...so why are you complaining? It's going to be the SAME EXACT thing as it was going to be even if it was exclusive. Now more people can get to play the "magical" game you call these big exclusives. Also, companies won't make shovelware/crappy spin-offs on the Wii forever so how are they going to recoup losses? Right, they're going to make games multiplatform.

 

YES IT IS! IT ALREADY HAS BEEN! look, I know you want to believe in a world where they "say" nothing has changed and it is true (so do I :D) but that is just not reality. EVEN is NOT all these systems are capable of, that in my eyes means the game is already GIMPED. That WAS the original plan, to get as close as possible to making a game that fully utilizes PS3 specs. If the two games are being made to be "EVEN" how is this possible? Full Specs=/=Even games on both! This i am afraid is an impossibility with the amount of money companies want to spend porting (very little).

and as for the more people experiencing it comment. I think it is full of wholes. Unless we have underestimated  the possibility of success for FFXIII and it sells 15mil(exact amount of PS3s now) then there will be plenty of people who, if not were initially interested in the game, can pick it up on a whim. That seems to be what this ideal is. People who were not initially interested heavily in the game are now going to MAGICALLY pick it up cuz it was on their system now. The 360 will sell some, yes, but if it had stayed exclusive that number would have been added to the PS3, and thats the hard to swollow truth. I work at an area of gaming commerce, this is a topic that arises fairly often, 360 owners WERE goingto buy a PS3 for FFXIII, maybe not all, but a lot of the coinciding fans were.

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And now the game is also delayed because of its Multiplatness, I call that effecting the PS3 version, dont you?



      

      

      

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Not a final fantasy hand as I have said in previous posts I am not a huge sequel guy once you are up to 10 I think you have gone to far..  But its a great coup for 360 picking off another exclusive.

 



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Paul_Warren said:

 

"Again, there were no screens or video footage of the PS3 version of the game shown until this year. Up until that point all the screens and video were from the 360 version. If the 360 version was holding the game back the opposite would have been true."

     So I guess you're saying that major publications like Game Informer, IGN, and Play Magazine made up their articles where they quote Rockstar as saying the 360 version was holding up development of the game?

 

"As for your graphics point, you are right that a lot of reviews preferred of the PS3 version but the 360 version is technically superior. The game runs at a higher resolution with a higher rate and AA. This puts more strain the hardware. Especially considering that unlike the PS3 version, everything has to be streamed from the disk."

 

     Considering 360 failure rates then, I would be worried about playing a game on it that would put such a strain on its hardware.

The conventional wisdom was that the PS3 version was reason for the delay. You keep arguing the point but you have yet to explain why, if the PS3 development going smoothly, that we didnt' see anything from it until this year. As for you the bolded statment, it just shows that instead of conceding the point you had to resort to a flame. You've essentially admitted that you are wrong but only in a backhanded way.

 

 

 



"The conventional wisdom was that the PS3 version was reason for the delay. You keep arguing the point but you have yet to explain why, if the PS3 development going smoothly, that we didnt' see anything from it until this year. As for you the bolded statment, it just shows that instead of conceding the point you had to resort to a flame. You've essentially admitted that you are wrong but only in a backhanded way."

No, I haven't. This part of your own post says I'm right about the graphics in GTA IV being better on PS3 than they are on 360: "As for your graphics point, you are right that a lot of reviews preferred of the PS3 "



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

S.T.A.G.E. said:
iron_megalith said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
forevercloud3000 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Xen said:
This game is much more than a spinoff... hope it stays PS3-exclusive.

 

I subscribe to the theory that, as a gamer, we should hope that all great games go multiplat, because the more people who play them, the better.

 

screw more people playing them, I just want the best game possible. I dont want to be cheated by yet another game going multi. Games that are exclusive have the ability to use a system's FULL specs. That goes for BOTH systems.

DEATH TO MULTIPLATFORM!!!!

 

Listen to you Sony fanboys. You are all a bunch of hypocrites. Last gen you say that graphics dont matter on PS2 games as long as the graphics are acceptable and the gameplay is what stands out. Now look at you fools. Your arguments are laughable. Nintendo fanboys deserve their laugh at Sony and I laugh with them. I really cannot understand why you waste your time on stupid console superiority. I already know that the PS3 is more powerful. The Xbox was more powerful last gen and I loved the PS2. The reasons I like the 360 this gen is for the exact same reasons I liked the PS2. However the 360 and PS3 have strengths together that I find rather than overlooking the PS3 for a Wii. :)

What!? Who said that? I'm going to plant a bullet in their skull...

 

 

Please....it was a very good argument. Sony had all the games, though their graphics were inferior to the Xboxes. Their games had a higher gameplay factor than the original Xbox and thats what set them apart. This is why MS changed their gameplan. It taught people that graphics should come second to gameplay and also that notable 3rd party franchises were key to keeping your system afloat, especially if its exclusive.

Ever heard of God of War I & II?

 

 



What about the 50 other XIII games coming to PSP, DS, N-Gage and Iphones? I guess that the X360 owners must buy those systems too...

It's very unlikley that XIII on 360 is going to help Sony more than it hurts them. Even if some to goto the PS3 for other parts of the XIII series, the fact is, many many hardware sales will have been lost on X360 owners going to the PS3 due to XIII being Multi-Plat in the West.



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Soriku said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
@Obliterator

Do you have proof/specs/whatever or did you just make that up? I'm sure it's the latter. No PS3 or 360 game have challenged the opposite system's capabilities so don't try to spin it like that.

Your just trolling now...If you think the 360 has more capabilites then the ps3...No comment.

 

 


lol. When did I say the 360 has more capabilities? I said it has the SAME capabilities as the PS3 when it comes to graphics/specs which is true because no one game on the PS3 has challenged the graphical capabilities of the 360, or vice versa. Unless you give me specs then my statment holds true. You can't just say "LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU MY SYSTEM IS TRULY SUPERIOR!!!" just because...you said so.

Yeah. That was DEFINITELY trolling. Yeah.

What in the world is your first sentence addressing then? Secondly if you read the argument that was going on,you would know it was about the 360 version of FFXIII gimping down the ps3 version...BTW go do a little research on Blue-Ray discs...