Jasper have not been relised yet. Mabe september.

I'm thinking more along the lines of 85w or less. In other words, decent laptop power consumption. When that happens, along with a case redesign, I'll probably pick up a second 360 assuming all the hot games aren't already on Windows. If my current 360 breaks, then I'll definitely end up picking up a low power model once they're in the $200 or less range.

Odds are I'll end up buying a PS3 slimline before that happens. It is about as much a power hog as the gaming PC afterall.

I suspect with two broken PS3's I've suffered more than most!  But hopefully I'm not at the bottom of the pile - someone out there must have had 3 or 4 fail on them surely!

BTW agree on Folding Home.  I ended up stopping more due to cost and my wife not liking PS3 running all the time but I doubt that was the problem as I indicated in my response - kids jumping madly around and bumping it seems much more likely.

this thread is just a myth.

My 60GB PS3 get really hot but the fans never kick on except for one time my wife left it on all night / day because she didn't know PS3 have to be manually turn off since it has blue-tooth and thus can't be control by Harmony.

PS3 do run a lot hotter and eat up a lot of wattage, I never have folding at home running for this reason alone. My 360 always run cool but the fans is loud and annoying, since I have my PS3, most of my movies watching is on the PS3.

Both my 60GB PS3 and My Xenon 360 have never choked, despite their warm nature. Then again, I give them room to breathe. I've seen a lot of X360 (and PS3) owners who don't treat their consoles with the respect (and breathing room) they deserve.  A lot of these folks (gamer pals of mine) have said they've had one, or more, RRoDs, and one even had his PS3 cave in (and yep, he was Folding for something like 72 hours straight -- if there's one app that uses 100% of the Cell, its Folding@Home... I wouldn't be surprised if the heat output was just a bit too much to keep running constantly on 90nm Cells).

I also never fold@home for more than 8 hours at a time, and I never have all-nite sessions of Halo 3. I know where the RRoD monster lives.

I've always wondered if the very shape/form of the X360 somehow gives it a "don't worry about me, I won't overheat" appearance, and users merely treat it with less care than their PS3.

The Cell has been shrunk to 65nm for a while now... its 65nm in the 40GB model, yeah?  Anyone know about the GPU?  Is the new 80GB going to have less power requirements/heat than any of the older PS3 models?

The being said, my Wii actually gets hot, and it has plenty of room as well.  I thought it only used 18W, even during intensive gaming?

well, my laptop uses about that, and it still gets warm.

OT: lol. your best thread this week.... and you are right about the PS3 generating a lot of heat, but since it doesn't break because of it, I don't care. It actually came in handy when my furnace went on the blink. (I kid you not. Take a PS3 in a cold room and shut the door....)

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and by the same token, I have to open the window when I leave the PS3 running in the summer, particularly when the display is on. Big screen LCD flat panel uses at least as many watts of power as the PS3, and generates heat as well.

But, at least heat doesn't make most PS3s take a hardware dump.

And it does make gaming cozy in the winter. lol

I still look forward to replacing it with a low power model in the future though.