Wow... now those reports have aboslutly no western implications in them( lol ). Grow up, reports like those will never show you the real deal and most of them will allways be anti Russians like most english written "reports". If you trully bealive every single thing that you read on the internet than Im sorry for you...

Anyways it was nice chating with you :P But I have to go and see Rambo kicking some Russian but tonight lol

As a side note, why does Russia need more land?

hunter_alien said: Wow... now those reports have aboslutly no western implications in them( lol ). Grow up, reports like those will never show you the real deal and most of them will allways be anti Russians like most english written "reports". If you trully bealive every single thing that you read on the internet than Im sorry for you... Anyways it was nice chating with you :P But I have to go and see Rambo kicking some Russian but tonight lol

Yeah...because Communist countries have never controlled any media or news sources -_-

 

hunter_alien said: Wow... now those reports have aboslutly no western implications in them( lol ). Grow up, reports like those will never show you the real deal and most of them will allways be anti Russians like most english written "reports". If you trully bealive every single thing that you read on the internet than Im sorry for you... Anyways it was nice chating with you :P But I have to go and see Rambo kicking some Russian but tonight lol

Hah it's sad you seem to believe nothing, if only to support your own wrong views on things. Point out to me why the reports are bias then?

Rather then "THEY'RE IN ENGLISH ONOEZ!"

If you read their methodology you'd see it's solid.

I'll take a third party account over a Russian account... considering how repressed their press is.

Also... I thought Rambo fought the vietnese and corrupt Americans. Eh i never saw a rambo movie all the way through though. Found them boring.

Rocky 4 was good though.

Really though... do some more international study on the issue. I mean you didn't even know that like 70% of the population are ethinic ossetians claiming they were russians. It's harder but a lot more rewarding then jumping on one side or the other based on preconceived bias.

Which is all that could explain your support of this despite the fact they have much less claim then Kosovo who you thought should stay with Serbia.

Words Of Wisdom said: As a side note, why does Russia need more land?

 

 I dont think its the land they want TBH... its more of a political game at this point. Russia still has to show that hes still the big dog he used to be before the anti-communist revolution...

Kasz: just because people voted as Osetians it doesnt means they actually are. I vote as a Romanian but Im actually Hungarian, so yeah those numbers are not correct.

superchunk: of course they kept pushing even deeper into Georgia and the only sad thing is that they didnt occupied it IMO. Osetia has a population of what 80k or maybe a bit more I dont know exactly ( but anyone is free to check it out ) and a small country like that should not exist anymore it cant even keep itself up. It shouldent be alowed for similar sized places to exist, because in the long run its a suicidal plan.

And how could Russia show in a better way what they want then attacking Georgia? The political discussions didnt had any effects so it was finally time to take some action... and they did.

But at the end of the day is more about what you support? You want every single small nationality to have its own country or you want just want one big, capable one... because if you want the first then I cant convince you no matter how hard I would want...

 

Tigawoods said: hunter_alien said: Wow... now those reports have aboslutly no western implications in them( lol ). Grow up, reports like those will never show you the real deal and most of them will allways be anti Russians like most english written "reports". If you trully bealive every single thing that you read on the internet than Im sorry for you... Anyways it was nice chating with you :P But I have to go and see Rambo kicking some Russian but tonight lol Yeah...because Communist countries have never controlled any media or news sources -_-

 

 Umm... honey... Russia is a democratic country for more than one and a half decade now ;)

 

Kasz: Rambo 2/3... the "real" enemy was allways a soviet group lol... they are bloody, and the tipical 80s action-movies :P

 

And the main reason why I taught that Kosovo should stay with Serbia is the same one that I want Osetia ( and with Gods help Georgia :P... Im just messing around on this one ) to be connected to Russia: Europe is falling apart and all the US wants is this to happen as fast as possible. With this rate we will have in a couple of years at least half a dozen more countries and thats not a solution I would like...

hunter_alien said: Words Of Wisdom said: As a side note, why does Russia need more land?   I dont think its the land they want TBH... its more of a political game at this point. Russia still has to show that hes still the big dog he used to be before the anti-communist revolution... Kasz: just because people voted as Osetians it doesnt means they actually are. I vote as a Romanian but Im actually Hungarian, so yeah those numbers are not correct. superchunk: of course they kept pushing even deeper into Georgia and the only sad thing is that they didnt occupied it IMO. Osetia has a population of what 80k or maybe a bit more I dont know exactly ( but anyone is free to check it out ) and a small country like that should not exist anymore it cant even keep itself up. It shouldent be alowed for similar sized places to exist, because in the long run its a suicidal plan. And how could Russia show in a better way what they want then attacking Georgia? The political discussions didnt had any effects so it was finally time to take some action... and they did. But at the end of the day is more about what you support? You want every single small nationality to have its own country or you want just want one big, capable one... because if you want the first then I cant convince you no matter how hard I would want...

Russian was an option on the census. Why wouldn't they pick Russian?

It's not a small country. It's a region of georgia... kept seperate by russia because Russia wanted to steal it back.

"South Ossetia" was always part of georgia and that's how it should stay.

As for the "Small Nation" bit... they were about to join NATO but Russia was getting in the way.  That is how you keep small nations up.  Alliances.  Not conquering and domination.

hunter_alien said: Tigawoods said: hunter_alien said: Wow... now those reports have aboslutly no western implications in them( lol ). Grow up, reports like those will never show you the real deal and most of them will allways be anti Russians like most english written "reports". If you trully bealive every single thing that you read on the internet than Im sorry for you... Anyways it was nice chating with you :P But I have to go and see Rambo kicking some Russian but tonight lol Yeah...because Communist countries have never controlled any media or news sources -_-     Umm... honey... Russia is a democratic country for more than one and a half decade now ;)   Kasz: Rambo 2/3... the "real" enemy was allways a soviet group lol... they are bloody, and the tipical 80s action-movies :P   And the main reason why I taught that Kosovo should stay with Serbia is the same one that I want Osetia ( and with Gods help Georgia :P... Im just messing around on this one ) to be connected to Russia: Europe is falling apart and all the US wants is this to happen as fast as possible. With this rate we will have in a couple of years at least half a dozen more countries and thats not a solution I would like...

Err... Russia ain't so democratic lately... with heavy corruption in the electoral system.

Which is the worst form of corruption in my opinion.

Check out the nuetral internation observers opinions on them lately.

Russia is a democracy in the same way Cuba is a democracy. (Hey Castro got 100% of the vote last election.)

Kasz216 said: hunter_alien said: Words Of Wisdom said: As a side note, why does Russia need more land?   I dont think its the land they want TBH... its more of a political game at this point. Russia still has to show that hes still the big dog he used to be before the anti-communist revolution... Kasz: just because people voted as Osetians it doesnt means they actually are. I vote as a Romanian but Im actually Hungarian, so yeah those numbers are not correct. superchunk: of course they kept pushing even deeper into Georgia and the only sad thing is that they didnt occupied it IMO. Osetia has a population of what 80k or maybe a bit more I dont know exactly ( but anyone is free to check it out ) and a small country like that should not exist anymore it cant even keep itself up. It shouldent be alowed for similar sized places to exist, because in the long run its a suicidal plan. And how could Russia show in a better way what they want then attacking Georgia? The political discussions didnt had any effects so it was finally time to take some action... and they did. But at the end of the day is more about what you support? You want every single small nationality to have its own country or you want just want one big, capable one... because if you want the first then I cant convince you no matter how hard I would want...   Russian was an option on the census. Why wouldn't they pick Russian? It's not a small country.  It's a region of georgia... kept seperate by russia because Russia wanted to steal it back.

Because they where afraid? That could be an option to...Oh, and it seems that they havent voted Georgians neither, so afther your ideology they are not Georgians... they are Osetians then? :P But never the less I stand at my first statement and I do bealive that giving autonomy to Osetia would only result in an economical crysis to that land and IMO the only acceptable solution would be to connect it to Russia...Now I really have to go :P

 

 

hunter_alien said: Kasz216 said: hunter_alien said: Words Of Wisdom said: As a side note, why does Russia need more land?   I dont think its the land they want TBH... its more of a political game at this point. Russia still has to show that hes still the big dog he used to be before the anti-communist revolution... Kasz: just because people voted as Osetians it doesnt means they actually are. I vote as a Romanian but Im actually Hungarian, so yeah those numbers are not correct. superchunk: of course they kept pushing even deeper into Georgia and the only sad thing is that they didnt occupied it IMO. Osetia has a population of what 80k or maybe a bit more I dont know exactly ( but anyone is free to check it out ) and a small country like that should not exist anymore it cant even keep itself up. It shouldent be alowed for similar sized places to exist, because in the long run its a suicidal plan. And how could Russia show in a better way what they want then attacking Georgia? The political discussions didnt had any effects so it was finally time to take some action... and they did. But at the end of the day is more about what you support? You want every single small nationality to have its own country or you want just want one big, capable one... because if you want the first then I cant convince you no matter how hard I would want...   Russian was an option on the census. Why wouldn't they pick Russian? It's not a small country. It's a region of georgia... kept seperate by russia because Russia wanted to steal it back.   Because they where afraid? That could be an option to...Oh, and it seems that they havent voted Georgians neither, so afther your ideology they are not Georgians... they are Osetians then? :P But never the less I stand at my first statement and I do bealive that giving autonomy to Osetia would only result in an economical crysis to that land and IMO the only acceptable solution would be to connect it to Russia...Now I really have to go :P

29% voted ethnic georgian. 68% or so ossetian. We are talking about racial polling here.

Their ethnicity. South Ossetians were traditionally a part of georgia. the Race. Which is an middle eastern race.

There are also so Amernians in there... your claim that there are a lot of ethnic russians in there are outright false.

The people who were there under georgias rule are still there.