ah w/e i dont think Japan is gonna forget about the PS3 cuz it was born there but, they might forget about 360

btw how do u post up pics? can some1 help me plz? cuz right now the image i posted isnt showing

deathgod33 said: people are forgetting that sony is like the biggest thing in japan. im not saying ps3 will sell better than wii (thanks to its high price), it wont, but it will start selling 25 to 35k a week average and have a comfortable lead over xbox 360 which will start selling 2 to 4k a week again. so this just means that japan can be a huge advantage for ps3 over xbox 360. so outselling it worldwide will be a whole lot easier.

No people are just using their common sense. Nintendo was the biggest thing in Japan up until the PS1 launched and Sony proceeded to own Nintendo for the next 12 years. Sony screwed up, misjudged the market, and with the PSP/PS3 they have no chance of recovery. If they take what they've learned this generation and apply to the PS4 and PSP2 things could be completely different however.

when is the great improvement in sales supposed to begin?

The Playstation 3 will never have some sort of renaissance in Japan.

1) Brand. The Japanese don't care anymore. They aren't buying the Playstation 3 because of the name, anymore than they bought the N64 during it's fall from grace. Japanese love to switch to the side they feel has the most compelling features.

2) Functionality. The PSP has quite a bit of extra functionality over the DS, which is what has caused the increase in sales. The DS has saturated that market quite well, and the PSP is the only other similar device in a nation that is going portable.

3) Competition. Unlike the PSP, the Playstation 3 has very formidable rivals. The Xbox 360 has the price + Otaku advantage, and the Wii has the casual advantage. With only XIII as their ace in the hole, do you really think that's going to give them some sort of insane advantage?

The PS3 will never reach any sort of PSP-style sales in Japan, ever. It can do better than it is now, at the pitiful 10k/wk that it's selling, and could even double yearly sales at some point. But it stands little chance of reaching 10,000,000 units sold in Japan over the next 3 years...Not good numbers considering their last console sold over 20,000,000 units, and is looking at beating the PS2 on a week-over-week level soon.

@ mrstickball

i agree with all your points apart from 3. id say that the PSP does have a very formidable rival. the reason that the PSP can sell high (aside from Monster Hunter) is that Japan loves handhelds more. that would the third reason why PS3 cant reach PSP levels

makingmusic476 said: ZenfoldorVGI said: mrduckbear said: PSP anyone? even the software is starting to sell now...it's definately a crazy market, but they don't forget about consoles that are behind. Monster hunter was the selling point for it, and i think Sony should fight hard to at least make it multi-plat for Wii/PS3 on that monster hunter game. but either way, they don't forget and consoles that are dead last can make a big comeback and PSP is the one to look at.   The PSP didn't make a comeback. If the DS stopped selling ANY UNITS right now, and the PSP's numbers reached 100,000 a week consistantly, it would take it 2.5 years to catch the DS. At its current pace, it wouldn't catch the DS for 25 years. That's just in Japan. Not to mention the rest of the world. The PSP will never beat the DS in Japan. Especially in software. The proven sellers are all from the action MMO genre. They aren't even first party. No, I don't think the PSP has comeback on anything. In fact, I don't think any console has ever made a "comeback" in Japan. 360 might be the first. If you're suggesting that the PS3 take the PSP strategy, then you're suggesting that Sony wait around until the Wii saturates the whole market, and then move in with a slim model to take advantage of the console boom the Wii had undoubtedly created. If Sony can keep over a third of the console market in Japan by the end of this gen, it would have been a success for the PS3, I think. The PSP did make a comeback.  It went from being half dead to being the top selling device in Japan week to week. It doesn't have to beat the DS for it to have made a comeback.  By that logic, the 360 would have to at least beat the ps3, if not the Wii, to make a comeback in the region, something you must consider to be possible as shown in your post.

Um hi, the PSP is the top selling device largely due to the fact that the DS has reached market saturation where it isn't selling many more and reduced drastically it's amount sold. The PSP still pales in comparison on Software and that's where the developers make their cash. If games don't sell developers slowly start to waver and leave the format behind and it hurts sales more. The games selling well on PSP are pretty few and far between you cannot hide the fact.

The proof is in the pudding look at the veritable game drought on the PSP...

In the end the PSP and DS have been going for a while and PSP started in the lead and was pegged as some kind of clear winner. I would say if anybody made a comeback Nintendo did in the DS and Wii not Sony, not yet anyway but you can still hold out hope. Things change all the time and the market can be very fickle but I don't think PS3 will ever have the mass market appeal Wii does

souixan said: makingmusic476 said: ZenfoldorVGI said: mrduckbear said: PSP anyone? even the software is starting to sell now...it's definately a crazy market, but they don't forget about consoles that are behind. Monster hunter was the selling point for it, and i think Sony should fight hard to at least make it multi-plat for Wii/PS3 on that monster hunter game. but either way, they don't forget and consoles that are dead last can make a big comeback and PSP is the one to look at.   The PSP didn't make a comeback. If the DS stopped selling ANY UNITS right now, and the PSP's numbers reached 100,000 a week consistantly, it would take it 2.5 years to catch the DS. At its current pace, it wouldn't catch the DS for 25 years. That's just in Japan. Not to mention the rest of the world. The PSP will never beat the DS in Japan. Especially in software. The proven sellers are all from the action MMO genre. They aren't even first party. No, I don't think the PSP has comeback on anything. In fact, I don't think any console has ever made a "comeback" in Japan. 360 might be the first. If you're suggesting that the PS3 take the PSP strategy, then you're suggesting that Sony wait around until the Wii saturates the whole market, and then move in with a slim model to take advantage of the console boom the Wii had undoubtedly created. If Sony can keep over a third of the console market in Japan by the end of this gen, it would have been a success for the PS3, I think. The PSP did make a comeback.  It went from being half dead to being the top selling device in Japan week to week. It doesn't have to beat the DS for it to have made a comeback.  By that logic, the 360 would have to at least beat the ps3, if not the Wii, to make a comeback in the region, something you must consider to be possible as shown in your post.   Um hi, the PSP is the top selling device largely due to the fact that the DS has reached market saturation where it isn't selling many more and reduced drastically it's amount sold. The PSP still pales in comparison on Software and that's where the developers make their cash. If games don't sell developers slowly start to waver and leave the format behind and it hurts sales more. The games selling well on PSP are pretty few and far between you cannot hide the fact. The proof is in the pudding look at the veritable game drought on the PSP... In the end the PSP and DS have been going for a while and PSP started in the lead and was pegged as some kind of clear winner. I would say if anybody made a comeback Nintendo did in the DS and Wii not Sony, not yet anyway but you can still hold out hope. Things change all the time and the market can be very fickle but I don't think PS3 will ever have the mass market appeal Wii does

True, I think the PSP sells mostly to DS users and people that want a sort of IPOD for cheap.

 

For the PSP analogy, it might happen, but PS3's not appealing enough for the Japanese market. As crazy as it sounds, 360 have more chance to take off like PSP did than PS3 at this point. RPGs are a very popular genre over there and of course, it'll never sell 360, but if Sony was smart enough to secure more RPGs, it might do it. MS, on the other hand, MUST absolutely prevent ff13 from being exclusive in Japan.

@ reptile, im pretty sure they wont be able to do that. unless they do pay square enix as the rumour goes

PSP would never catch DS, it wont come even close. Ds still sells well even with such big saturation of the market, PSP.. PS3 does not have much to offer for the Japanese Gamers; because they simply focus more on Western Audience (and even there they cant outsell opposition) and the Wii is dominating that region, with some more RPG's finally announced they should clinch it (also games like MH3).