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ssj12 said:
alpha_dk said:
ssj12 said:
well with new battery tech they should be working on smaller batteries. Only common sense says make a better battery.

Battery research is both slow and verrrry expensive.  Although I am not discounting that they will 'make a better battery', it is much easier said than done.  Granted, a lot of research is going into them now (especially for plug-in hybrids, etc), so maybe there's been a breakthrough I haven't heard of.

I'm not holding my breath though.

 

what do they have to research? Forget which university it was but some US university invented very tiny lithium wires that can make a battery three times smaller but last 30 times longer.

Well, they could start by researching a way to maek that battery without it costing 1000 times as much.  You know, so that those of us in the real world can afford it.

Hey, guess what ssj12, we can provide all of the electic power we could ever want at no cost whatsoever to the environment if we put satellites into space to collect solar power and beam it down to Earth in the form of microwaves that can be converted to produce elctricity.  If we've got unlimited resources with no environamental costs, why haven't we done it?  OH YEAH, THE TECHNOLOGY IS TOO DAMNED EXPENSIVE.

Really, it doesn't take much of the old brain power to figure things like this out.  New tech is great, but it takes years or sometimes decades before us common folk can afford it.



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wenlan said:
Galaki said:
Why so many jump to conclusion that it doesn't sell well?
You're talking about 10-12 hours more gaming on the go with a little thickness increase.

If they are coming out with a new and better battery, why not keep this until then?
Then again, that's just some of your speculating that.

PSP is known to have shorter play time than the DS. With this, they beat it.

Maybe they just don't want people to be spoiled and play less.

Why do you jump into conclusion that Sony would shoot itself in the foot?

It will take awhile for Sony to sell through the inventory anyway. What's the rush to announce its replacement?

Do you know how many colors of PSP are selling in Japan? "10" in US? "5" And this battery kit only serve the need of people with black or silver PSP. It's just a matter of time for Sony to mofify this product to fit everybody PSP buyer's need.

Are the new colors not slim PSP's?



SHMUPGurus said:
TheRealMafoo said:
I never really understood this. If you really need more battery life, just buy another battery... hell, buy 5.

"Yes, we are discontinuing this product as we look for other opportunities to service the consumer," notes de Leon. Hopefully, we'll see something else that can augment the PSP's battery life.

How the heck can we buy 5 of them if they're not selling them anymore? :/

 

 they're only discontinuing the extended life batteries. normal batteries are obviously still for sale.




Gearbox said:
sony has a nice line up of psp games coming now :)

They have Resistance spinoff and Papaton 2, what else do they have?

The PSP is in a slump and has what I would consider one of the worst lineups I've ever seen for a living console.

 



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izaaz101 said:

Are the new colors not slim PSP's?

No, these colors are just for the slim model:

piano black, ceramic white, ice silver, rose pink, deep red, matt bronze, felicia blue, mint green, lavender purple, and metallic blue

Sounds crazy, but even NA gets 5 colors.



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Zen - they also have Parasite Eve 3 and a KH game from SE. Chances are they have more than that that neither of us knows about (I really don't keep up with PSP games, even though I can play them). Really, though, the system, at worst, keeps cranking things out at the same level year after year, and that's not a bad position to be in when your business is profitable.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Gearbox said:
sony has a nice line up of psp games coming now :)

They have Resistance spinoff and Papaton 2, what else do they have?

The PSP is in a slump and has what I would consider one of the worst lineups I've ever seen for a living console.

 

I am very surprised to hear this statement from you, Zen.

Are you following the Japanese weekly chart at VGChartz at all?

What does DS has except DQIX and alll the SE remakes?

 



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ChichiriMuyo said:
ssj12 said:
alpha_dk said:
ssj12 said:
well with new battery tech they should be working on smaller batteries. Only common sense says make a better battery.

Battery research is both slow and verrrry expensive.  Although I am not discounting that they will 'make a better battery', it is much easier said than done.  Granted, a lot of research is going into them now (especially for plug-in hybrids, etc), so maybe there's been a breakthrough I haven't heard of.

I'm not holding my breath though.

 

what do they have to research? Forget which university it was but some US university invented very tiny lithium wires that can make a battery three times smaller but last 30 times longer.

Well, they could start by researching a way to maek that battery without it costing 1000 times as much.  You know, so that those of us in the real world can afford it.

Really, I don't see why this site keeps putting clueless fanboys in the position of moderators.  Not saying I'd be any better, since I'm a jerk, but the people that keep getting put into power just aren't up to being unbiased at all, and more often than not don't even have one damn clue what the hell they are talking about.

Hey, guess what ssj12, we can provide all of the electic power we could ever want at no cost whatsoever to the environment if we put satellites into space to collect solar power and beam it down to Earth in the form of microwaves that can be converted to produce elctricity.  If we've got unlimited resources with no environamental costs, why haven't we done it?  OH YEAH, THE TECHNOLOGY IS TOO DAMNED EXPENSIVE.

Really, it doesn't take much of the old brain power to figure things like this out.

 

guess what, they were developing AFFORDABLE ong lasting batteries. They are using technologies readily available. Whats the worse that it could cost to the customer when mass-produced? The same amount that rechargable batteries did when launched ie about $50. If a rechargeable battery cell can last 40 times longer, I can handle paying $50 for a single cell battery or for laptops about $250 since thats what the best batteries for laptops at the moment costs.

 

Also your completely wrong about infinite power from solar power. Do you know why? Current solar cells only capture one color of light energy. We currently are developing ones that capture three which is costing billions in R&D. It will take years to develop a solar cell that can take advantage of a full beam of light.]

 

@sieanr - I understand that but traditionally discoveries from Universities when take to a consumer level product is tested extensively at the University before any company even picks up the product.

 

 



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ChichiriMuyo said:
Zen - they also have Parasite Eve 3 and a KH game from SE. Chances are they have more than that that neither of us knows about (I really don't keep up with PSP games, even though I can play them). Really, though, the system, at worst, keeps cranking things out at the same level year after year, and that's not a bad position to be in when your business is profitable.

 

I'm making assumptions based on the topics created by PSP fanboys, who assert that the console is in a gaming drout and has been for a solid year.

Observe this topic

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=33043

The PSP is in a gaming drought. Adult oriented games that would have once went, no question to the PSP are now hitting DS, like GTA. The PSP's largest games are now second or first party, like Resistance spinoff, and 3rd party supporters are finding the PSP unprofitable outside of Japan, and in Japan online in a very specific genre, as the PSP is much harder to develop for than the DS.

The PSP once held a commanding lead on gamerankings, but that lead has been whithered, and now even when the lead existed, the console was surmised of ports, and games that were based off engines that allow for repititous year over year games like Madden or The Show.

It is especially apparent in a time when the DS is now taking off, with even diehard "advanced graphics" developers like Bioware choosing the DS over the PSP, and Activision saying that "Guitar Hero will hit all relevant consoles" but leaving the PSP out, is a stark reminder of the PSP's place in gaming in general.

You cite Parasite Eve 3, how many Square-Enix games are hitting DS? 10x as many? How much more imporatant? Dragonquest IX? 10x more important? Were you aware DS als is getting a KH game? Are you aware of the lineup for the PSP in the future and how slim and bleak it is? Have you seen the 3rd party support jump ship from not only large companies, but small?

The PSP has a poor future lineup, even by average standards. When you compare it to the DS, it's a complete disaster. Go to gamestop and search for the PSP games lineup and you'll see what I mean. those average titles that no one cares about? They don't exist on the PSP. When the DS is a much easier platform to generate profit from, as well as being easier to develop for, 3rd parties have made their choice. Naughty Dog, a Sony developer, is the remaining light of the console, and Resistance spinoff lements the generation that could have been.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Look, I'm going to be honest in saying I'm a tad bit drunk here. That's why I edited out the unnecessary (and admittedly distasteful) comment in my post. the fact still remaind that said technology is not yet affordable. When it become affordable, you can expect it to become common in many pieces of portable hardware. Until that time, however, it's foolish to suggest Sony will or should use that technology.

That aside, I am not incorrect in terms of photovoltaics being capable of capturing what is essentially unlimited power. While solar technology is still being developed, it has been possible wince the 1970's to power all of the Earth off of non-terrestrial power sources given that the money was there to do so. We could, 30 years ago, have sent a device to the moon to melt the upper layers of its surface (highly populated by silicates) into a solar-energy absrobing glass along the lines of pre-photovoltaic cells (but less effective) that could collect energy and transmit that to transmitting stations which could convert it to microwave and beam it to regions of the Earth that needed it.

In fact, in the 1970's we proved that we could collect extraterrestrial power. The things that stand in its way are costs that no nation, let alone corporation, is able to bear single-handedly and environmental concerns from people that still thing microwaves are dangerous to us in the face of the fact that we are bombarded by them through cell phone transmissions whether we own such a device or not.

Really, though, the reason that technology (along with the batteries you've spoken of) aren't being used is down to the one fact that makes business run: cost. When these things are cost effective, they will happen. Until then, they are good ideas that need millions or billions of dollars more in research.



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