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noname2200 on 09 August 2008
Onyxmeth said:

Question: Where does that chart come from? Did Nintendo just casually fax this over to Kotaku? This seems like the kind of thing that Nintendo would call for a small media gathering to talk about it.

I know this is a bit off-topic, but if the 360 and the Wii were selling roughly the same amount of third party software their first 19 months, doesn't that actually show the strength of the 360's software superiority since there were millions less 360s in the first 19 months than Wiis?

 

 

For the first question, some Nintendo exec. did e-mail it to Kotaku (nothing better to do, I suppose? It's certainly not the first time they've made this point to Kotaku...) And actually, they said this exact same thing at their E3 conference. I can understand if you were asleep at the time, though. Oh boy can I understand...

As for your second point, not necessarily. Remember, this is NPD data, not worldwide data, so it only covers the U.S. (which appears to be the region with the smallest gap between the Wii and the HD consoles: it only overtook the 360 a month ago). Granted, the chart probably does show that individual 360 owners purchase slightly more software than individual Wii owners, but I don't think third parties much care how many games individuals buy per se; they want to know how many copies of their own games sold. Put another way, even if Wii owners are less voracious than 360 owners when it comes to purchases, sheer weight of numbers outweighs the 360's advantage.

 



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Generic Username 01 on 09 August 2008

I don't know why Nintendo faxed this to Kotaku. Trying to convince the hardcore of the Wii's success is like talking to a brick wall.



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Onyxmeth on 09 August 2008
noname2200 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Question: Where does that chart come from? Did Nintendo just casually fax this over to Kotaku? This seems like the kind of thing that Nintendo would call for a small media gathering to talk about it.

I know this is a bit off-topic, but if the 360 and the Wii were selling roughly the same amount of third party software their first 19 months, doesn't that actually show the strength of the 360's software superiority since there were millions less 360s in the first 19 months than Wiis?

 

 

For the first question, some Nintendo exec. did e-mail it to Kotaku (nothing better to do, I suppose? It's certainly not the first time they've made this point to Kotaku...) And actually, they said this exact same thing at their E3 conference. I can understand if you were asleep at the time, though. Oh boy can I understand...

As for your second point, not necessarily. Remember, this is NPD data, not worldwide data, so it only covers the U.S. (which appears to be the region with the smallest gap between the Wii and the HD consoles: it only overtook the 360 a month ago). Granted, the chart probably does show that individual 360 owners purchase slightly more software than individual Wii owners, but I don't think third parties much care how many games individuals buy per se; they want to know how many copies of their own games sold. Put another way, even if Wii owners are less voracious than 360 owners when it comes to purchases, sheer weight of numbers outweighs the 360's advantage.

 

I couldn't keep my weary eyes open during E3. In all seriousness, I just found it odd that Nintendo feels they need to placate Kotaku, like if they were that important.

Regarding the second paragraph, I totally goofed and forgot this was NPD data. I was thinking like this were worldwide software sales. Also my thoughts in my second paragraph weren't actually supposed to connect back to the original point of the topic. It was just an observation on strength of sales on 360, but it's not nearly as large a gap in in hardware sales as I thought, so might as well stricken that paragraph from the record.

 



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bdbdbd on 09 August 2008

@Generic username: First Nintendo made public a similar graph about software sales on each platform according to NPD, then it was asked (by Kotaku?), that how are the 3rd party sales. So, i guess they mailed it to them only, or Kotaku was the first one to report it.

@Onyxmeth: It does show how tailored 360 software is to its userbase. You must have noticed how good the 360 gameslist is according to 360 owners (and not by much anyone else), while Wii sells better, and there's not that big difference between the number of games, then the games are catered for the specific audience, which means the audience has more appealing titles to choose from.



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steven787 on 09 August 2008

Stop calling gamers who post on the internet "hardcore" they make up such a small percentage of gamers in the first place. Part of being a "hardcore" gamer is playing games not talking about them all day.

I am stuck here because I can't play games at work. When I am home, I play games. I don't consider myself "hardcore" because I have job, go to school, and like to see real people.

Core gamer is one thing, but anyone who brags about being "hardcore" has some freaking issues.

Also as stated 50 times in this thread, those numbers are from NPD.

Don't shift your opinions of NPD numbers. The same people who cry when their console is off by 3000 between NPD and VG Chartz should maintain that same opinion when it shows numbers that they don't like.



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celine on 09 August 2008
noname2200 said:
Gorgory said:
I went to the page of ubisoft and tehres nothing announced there. I am alive doesnt have platforms yet... those are faulty sorces. Prince of persia doesnt exist, was never shown or announced. even red steel is unnoficial until announced.

Alright, I'll eat my own words and concede that I'm NOT done here. (Sorry, but it's late and I'm feeling cranky). The I Am Alive announcement is everywhere by now, not just at the one link I provided (I just didn't think it necessary to bombard you with more). However, every Wii site I've visited has it listed as an official game, without exception. It's real, dude.

There's even more proof about the others. Prince of Persia on Wii was officially announced, as I said. Granted, it's NOT the same game as the HD versions, and is being described by an Ubisoft executive as a complimentary spinoff game, but it exists.

As for Red Steel 2, I concede it has not been officially announced. But when the game's director publically gives an interview about how Red Steel 2 is coming along I take that as confirmation myself.

 

A new PoP for Wii hasn't be officially confirmed ... yet. ( you are confusing some of that articles. The first one refered to the port released in 2007 on Wii )

 



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celine on 09 August 2008
Onyxmeth said:
noname2200 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Question: Where does that chart come from? Did Nintendo just casually fax this over to Kotaku? This seems like the kind of thing that Nintendo would call for a small media gathering to talk about it.

I know this is a bit off-topic, but if the 360 and the Wii were selling roughly the same amount of third party software their first 19 months, doesn't that actually show the strength of the 360's software superiority since there were millions less 360s in the first 19 months than Wiis?

 

 

For the first question, some Nintendo exec. did e-mail it to Kotaku (nothing better to do, I suppose? It's certainly not the first time they've made this point to Kotaku...) And actually, they said this exact same thing at their E3 conference. I can understand if you were asleep at the time, though. Oh boy can I understand...

As for your second point, not necessarily. Remember, this is NPD data, not worldwide data, so it only covers the U.S. (which appears to be the region with the smallest gap between the Wii and the HD consoles: it only overtook the 360 a month ago). Granted, the chart probably does show that individual 360 owners purchase slightly more software than individual Wii owners, but I don't think third parties much care how many games individuals buy per se; they want to know how many copies of their own games sold. Put another way, even if Wii owners are less voracious than 360 owners when it comes to purchases, sheer weight of numbers outweighs the 360's advantage.

 

I couldn't keep my weary eyes open during E3. In all seriousness, I just found it odd that Nintendo feels they need to placate Kotaku, like if they were that important.

Regarding the second paragraph, I totally goofed and forgot this was NPD data. I was thinking like this were worldwide software sales. Also my thoughts in my second paragraph weren't actually supposed to connect back to the original point of the topic. It was just an observation on strength of sales on 360, but it's not nearly as large a gap in in hardware sales as I thought, so might as well stricken that paragraph from the record.

 

Not Kotaku. The original source is GameDaily.

 



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DMeisterJ on 09 August 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
And a lot of us are fairly sure Nintendo is holding back for the next six months just to make sure developers have no competition from Nintendo, and therefore no excuse.

Erm...

I think that's stretching it a little too far.



Onimusha12 on 09 August 2008
DMeisterJ said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
And a lot of us are fairly sure Nintendo is holding back for the next six months just to make sure developers have no competition from Nintendo, and therefore no excuse.

Erm...

I think that's stretching it a little too far.

 

 Perhaps, but after this holiday third party developers will have no excuse to bitch about competing with Nintendo anymore.



Oyvoyvoyv on 09 August 2008

Comparing the numbers to VGC:

Wii

For the entire Americas

Total: 77.5M

1st party: 41.6M

Total: 35.9M

If we say 10%, the OP says 33-34M. But, I have used 0.5 months extra (Wii launched in the middle of one) so they're spot on.

For Ps3:

Total: 33.7M

1st party: 7.1M

3rd party: 26.6M

So their data on Ps3 is incorrect. We have no valid X360 data, so I ignore it.

They undertracked Ps3 probably - on purpose.



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