No, they just didn't think it would win. They're catching on now.

@diomedes and kyros

How would the Wii have to sell to be good enough for you? It seems like everytime one of your talking points gets disproven you use damage control to increase the distance that the Wii has to jump to prove you wrong, yet it keeps doing so, time and time again.

Shouldn't your comments be more concerned with the HD consoles failings than the Wii's success. It's first in every kind of sales you could possibly quantify? How much more proof do you need that the Wii moves hardware and software better than HD consoles do?

If the Wii had all the big multiplats that the PS360 has, how much would the Wii 3rd party sales be then, compared to HD sales? Frankly, your console, whichever non-Wii console that might be, is still losing, and it has the handicap of having the best selling big 3rd party games on the market. The Wii is having to scrap by on games like Okami and RE4, but it's still winning.

I'm convinced no amount of data would make you praise the Wii. You would just make up some new damage control. It's in your nature.

Kinda like when diomedes attacks VGChartz when he thinks the PS3 didn't sell enough units, on a weekly basis.

Hahahaha! Yeah that's it. I'm going to keep telling myself that. I mean, it has to come true some day right?

@thread

Just ignore Diomedes and Kyros they're just bitter their consoles lost this generation and prospects for the next gen look even dimmer. Meanwhile the Wii and its struggle offers them catharsis as a punching bag of sorts.

cool never thought third parties doing well then where are thier support

Here's the thing. Capcom is remaking their first HD game for the Wii (since a direct port is not possible). Their first HD game is now going to the Wii. That is certainly a start. Next could be Lost Planet, DMC 4, and RE5.

Ubisoft may have some casual games, but they are also taking the time to make sure Red Steel, which will not be cheap shovelware, is a killer game this time, since the first game is still selling. They aren't losing that money by abandoning the series or the Wii.

Square-Enix made one of the first WiiWare games, and its graphics did show they know the system, and Dragon Quest swords sold over half a million. That is not money they are throwing away, especially since they stated over a year ago they are supporting all systems.

Not to mention EA and Activision are giving the Wii their full support. And there are all the independent developers.

The developers are coming. It's just that so many games sold on the other systems, the Wii won't be sucking developers away like the PS2.

It's starting to pour in. Notice how many of the biggest third party games this holiday season are going to get a Wii version too? (Guitar Hero, Call of Duty, Rock Band 2, Spore, Sonic, etc.) Even Ubisoft is bringing Red Steel 2, Prince of Persia, and I Am Alive (which seems to be their "next big thing"). Be patient, it's coming.

^no... shawn white looks like shovelware from PS2 and the other two arent even announced and will never be.

Red steel 2 will be bad like the 1st one

*Whew*, at last, with titanic hardware numbers as a base, the 3rd parties can finally turn their attention to the Wii, because someone out there both has a Wii and will buy.

This chart might be more interesting if it showed 3rd-party investment and 3rd-party return for each console, as opposed to raw numbers of 3rd-party shovelware on the Wii, compared to more real 3rd-party games on the other platforms. 

3rd party profits -- now that would be a great chart to see.  Maybe the Wii is up there, I dunno.  This chart posted here is total spin, though.  If the Wii floats (maybe?), and weighs as much as a duck (I think so)...

Oh, I'm not saying things are completely peachy in Wii Land, my friend. Shaun White does look like crap, as does the majority of Ubisoft's lineup. But Ubisoft is only one company, one that increasingly seems to be the exception rather than the rule. I mentioned them only because even THEY are bringing things that seem promising to the Wii. And while Red Steel 2 may end up being crappy, the fact that it was scrapped and restarted by another team tells me actual effort is being put into this one. Doesn't mean the result will be perfect, but you can't deny there's effort here.

And the "other two" WERE announced (assuming you meant I Am Alive and Prince of Persia). PoP for the Wii was officially announced the day after Ubidays concluded, while the Wii version of I Am Alive was announced just before E3. They're official, even if we haven't seen anything yet.

I agree it'd be nice if publishers gave us such information outright, rather than making us pick through other data to find it, but we do know a fair bit about quite a few games. For instance, we know that the average HD game costs two to four times more than the average Wii game.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18389

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149154.html

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/features/cost-of-development-greatly-favors-wii-say-publishers/69714/?biz=1

With that info, we can glean quite a bit about individual third parties through their financial reports, especially in light of how the average HD game needs to sell 500k copies to break even (I'll try to dig up the source again). Obviously, high budget games need even more. So if the average HD game needs 500k, and if Wii development is often a third of that, let's say the Wii needs 166k to break even. Note: both of those figures are lower for games that are ports from the last generation, obviously, a la Okami, Bully, etc.

We also know that rising development costs are cannibalizing the record revenue the industry is seeing, so despite making over a billion dollars in revenue EA posted a loss last year, etc. Do you perchance have any other figures to share? Because I'll admit that "analyzing" this stuff is kinda fun for me...

link for I am Alive and Prince of Persia announcements? I dont find any