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This is the stupidest thing I have heard all damn day. Goodbye.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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This is the dumbest topic I've ever seen. I would explain further but others have already explained enough the longer I spend in this thread the dumber I get.



dib8rman said:
WTH?

Some people are confusing... I find it clear what he's saying but I guess that isn't universal.

Look in his idea and as is the case that many seem to forget, it's also been repeated way too many times: You DON'T need Friend Codes to play other people, his idea is that FC's work in the back ground though - but they don't.


 

But he's clearly saying the actual X-digit code is a superior system:

 

bdbdbd said:

0602-6431-9626 is a lot easier to remember than whether was the guy leet_geek, l33t_g33k, leet g33k



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

in case you didn't know yet, gamertag is better than friendcode



@dib8rman: You know, the points you listed are just the thing i'm after. Let's say that the gamertag would be used just like friendcodes are currently. Would it suck because of gamertag or how they are used? Now people say "friendcodes suck", while their complaints have nothing to do with friendcodes. In reality they complain how Nintendo (ab)uses friendcodes. Would friendcodes suck if they would be used as gamertag currently is?
And i know how Brawl online system works, i have one and it kinda sucks, i just can't see how friendcodes would be the reason why it sucks. I also have MKWii, which works perfectly with the friencode system, it even uses the console code.

@Burgles: You know, it's not about what the 360 userbase thinks, since i think M$ would like to expand its userbase and make more accessible system, which friendcode system is.

@EaglesEye: I actually brought out Miis as a screen name and friendcode as an address. Look, if gamertag would be used as friendcodes at the moment, would it be any better system? Or would a universal friendcode suck, if it would equal current gamertag system?

So far, we have had 3 options to add people as friends: 1. Add a friendcode. 2. Add someone online by hitting add as a friend. 3. Send an request to add people via message board.

Changing Mii doesn't make a difference, since changing a Mii doesn't change your friendcode, therefore only your screenname would change, friendlist would still exist.

Iwata was talking about making friendcode system better, not about ditching friendcodes. See Dib8ermans post to see how to make it better, that's what Iwata is talking about. From the standpoint of starting playing online, Nintendos current system is nearly perfect and doesn't need an improvement. What people complain, is lack of possibility to send messages and add people as friends online. Friendcodes have nothing to do with the two. If Nintendo wanted, they could have added even in-game videochat and automatically adding everyone as friends and still be using friendcodes.

@horriblebastard: So, if there would be a gamertag in in MSCF, and you couldn't add it, it would be better? Or would it be better if you could add your opponents friendcode by hitting a button "add as a friend"? See, the problem isn't the friendcode.

Ok, with the "same names and look alike Miis" you're just grasping straws. See my earlier post where i mention the leet geek.

Then, could you give me an example what can do with the gamertag, that is impossible to do with friendcodes?
When it comes to consoles online functionality, Wii seems to be the best out of the three, but its online gaming functionalities aren't up to par with PS360.

@Halogamer: Oh, i just lended it...

@Munkeh: Cartoony Miis in realistic shooter? Yeah. Why not. You'd just see the face and a name on a list. Looks like you're grasping straws too.

@Goddbless: Actually, i'm not saying that M$ has copied the system, i said that M$ took the most important step towards friendcodes. The functionality doesn't need to change in any ways, only the registration procedure. By going online, you'd get the ID (friendcode) and using the avatar you have, you'd have online account and a screenname ready. Now you'd only need to get people pay for online, which would be easier since people already would have their accounts.



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bdbdbd said:

When it comes to consoles online functionality, Wii seems to be the best out of the three, but its online gaming functionalities aren't up to par with PS360.

 

Um, you don't even own a 360 or PS3, do you?  Nope.



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

why change gamertags wen dey r doin so well? why take a chance to even make xbox live worse with the friend codes or watever?



                 


 

I think this has to be a joke thread.



Just kiss the tip.


Did you really just say the friend code system is nearly perfect? I guess that's why so many people hate it. They must all hate perfection huh?

Think of the gamertag system for a second. If I meet someone and they have a 360 I can ask if they're on Live and, if yes, what kind of games do they like to play. I don't need to sit there and ask about each game and trade info for it. When I get home I send/accept the friend request and whenever is convenient we can get a game together. Now what is so hard about that?



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Looks like dib8erman is nearly the only one to get the whole idea. So let's put it out again, what the friendcode is:
Friendcode is auto-generated ID for your game/console, which makes possible you to go gaming online without doing anything. It takes about 2 seconds to generate a friendcode and you may not even notice having one. In comparision to competition, you're supposed to fill a registration and choose a unique username. All the time it took to generate an ID, is away from the use you intended.

If M$ would use friendcodes, they'd have accounts for everyone that ever went online with 360. No registration, or anything similar, just a silver account that advertises "upgrade to gold, only XXX a month".


So, how many of you are messenger or equivalent users? Does it suck to enter a persons e-mail address?

@Dodece: No, i'm not a troll, i'm very serious. What people don't seem (want?) to see, is that changing a gamertag to a friendcode, would only change the way you create an online account; to an easier way.

@sinha: Yes, it's a lot easier. Before i got my first mobile phone, i could remember 100+ phonenumbers with ease, but names and faces are a problem to me.



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