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sinha on 06 August 2008
bdbdbd said:

So, what do you think?

I think you're either really funny or a complete moron, I'm just not sure which one. 

M$ already have took one big step towards friendcodes with its avatars.

And how exactly are avatars a big step towards friend codes?  Please elaborate.

Friendcodes in general are more userfriendly evinronment, so in addition to make Live more appealing to the public, a friendcode system would be no-brainer.

Yes, it's very user friendly, that's why I have no idea what my Wii friend code is and have never added another friend code. 

But if you want to add me, my Wii friend code is 21385721340(9857243)09857324.  For Brawl it's 2349+805723/409875902384.  For Mario Kart it's 2138905e721d390s857238904.  And for Dr. Mario it's 423908572342340872534423 x10^27.

And since M$ makes big bucks with Live, they really have motivation to make it better for people.

And they're doing that with the Fall 08 update, making it better for people by adding new features, not making it much much worse by adding friend codes.

Maybe the 720 has friendcodes, or will we see them on 360?

Or never.  But Nintendo will add XBL/PSN style gamertags for their next console, or at least they'll add them before Microsoft and Sony add friend codes, because they never will.

 

 

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

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d21lewis on 06 August 2008

In 2010, someone will aquire the friend code: 10110010101001101101. Saying the code out loud will send them back in time.



sinha on 06 August 2008
bdbdbd said:

 

 

0602-6431-9626 is a lot easier to remember than whether was the guy leet_geek, l33t_g33k, leet g33k, l33t g33k, le3t g33k, leet ge3k, lee geek, lee_geek, lee_gee, 1337_geek, etc...

 

LOL

If friend codes are a lot easier to remember, can you recite the friend code of anyone from vgchartz without looking it up?

Because mrstickball is mr killemgood, rocketpig is rocketpig76... oh my god how can I remember such complicated names???



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

Dodece on 06 August 2008

@bdbdbd

You must be terribly proud of yourself this is the quintessential oblivious troll. You know that real gamers get attached to their virtual persona. So why not float a doomsday scenario. You guys know he is not sincere about this correct? Handles have been a part of the online gaming experience for over two decades. Without a sense of identity there would be no point in interaction. Yes I will say it no real point in going online with a Wii. That is basically playing against tweaked AI.



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Goddbless on 06 August 2008
d21lewis said:
In 2010, someone will aquire the friend code: 10110010101001101101. Saying the code out loud will send them back in time.

You Win The Thread!!!



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sinha on 06 August 2008
d21lewis said:
In 2010, someone will aquire the friend code: 10110010101001101101. Saying the code out loud will send them back in time.

 

Wii number: 3755-4261-3587-0398

Gamer tag: d21lewis

PSN ID: d21lewis

 

d21lewis: When I see your vgchartz username, "d21lewis", I immediately associate it not with your Gamertag or PSN, but with the number 3755-4261-3587-0399.

Unfortunatley, that is completely useless because it's not your friend code...

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

dib8rman on 06 August 2008

WTH?

Some people are confusing... I find it clear what he's saying but I guess that isn't universal.

Look in his idea and as is the case that many seem to forget, it's also been repeated way too many times: You DON'T need Friend Codes to play other people, his idea is that FC's work in the back ground though - but they don't.

In some games like Mario KartWii your Mii litterally is displayed (Or whatever racer your using.) Your license also appears online which has nothing to do with the games unique friend code but these functions in that specific game don't require friend codes.

Interacting with other racers when you want to is what requires Friend Codes. But that is a case specific to that game.

However you don't need friend codes to play the game online.

(This is my opinion from here on:)
Brawl is the best example of the worst incorperation of friend codes, users get no extra connectivity other than multiman and home run contests by adding each other.

If the Wii was unified, I could play We Love Gold and let's say someone wanted to play Brawl and had my Brawl Friend Code they could message me with a predefined request, the game would save state and I could insert the Brawl disc at any point from there if I accept (Similar to how VC games work.) or I could just decline.

The entire thing could happen without them knowing my Wii FC and the Brawl Friend code would of been much more useful for immediate functions.

Instead you get to have matches and home run contests >.>

BTW I signed up for a Brawl torny being held at a video game vendor near my route. Anyone want to do some matches, just IM me.

Prefferably US East.



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Tigawoods on 06 August 2008

Guy guy guys...friend codes on XBL will be awesome. I mean who doesn't want to redo their friends list by having to type in a number twice the size of a social security number.

 



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Words Of Wisdom on 06 August 2008

I think all handles should have hidden GUIDs attached to them.

That way anyone can pick any handle they want.



De85 on 06 August 2008
dib8rman said:
@bdbdbd

The issue isn't just friend codes. Game ID's in brawl are the worst for me not to mention useless. Assigning a friend in that game seemed like a matter of National Security.

Both people had to enter the games specific ID tag, then each had to accept the other.

4 layers of protection.

Wii friend codes would be great if they were really in the background. But they aren't Wii friend codes are actually quite a brick wall.

1. Wii has a parental code system - that should be marketed and used.
2. Friend Codes are pointless as people still make friends with internet strangers
3. I don't see why it couldn't just be left at:
a. Party A sends Friend Request
b. Party B accepts Friend Request unless
2b. Parental code required to accept this friend.

That would of been the tried and true method.

Of course we all have our own ideals.

 

There goes any perceived advantage of the friendcodes.  Unless you want to argue that there are more pedos on XBL than the entire internet, but I'm not buying it.  Just look at the quantity of friendcode threads here on VGC if you need proof.