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mrstickball said:
NJ5 said:

@mrstickball: As I said, anyone who believes the Wii doesn't have supply issues should at the very least be able to produce some photos (or even accounts) of Wiis piling up at stores.

Really, such a sudden and big drop wouldn't happen in the course of a week, even if some factors were making Wii demand go down.

 

Oh no, I wasn't trying to argue that the sudden loss of 50,000-odd Wii units was the responsibility of the X360. I just think that maybe a slight number (4,000-5,000) may have been because of that.

 

Well, can't argue with that really ;) The problem is that even such an effect were present, it would be very hard to notice it amidst all the supply fluctuation.

 



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NJ5 said:

Anyone who believes the Wii doesn't have supply issues should at the very least be able to produce some photos (or even accounts) of Wiis piling up at stores.

Really, such a sudden and big drop wouldn't happen in the course of a week, even if some factors were making Wii demand go down.

 

 

Get ready to weep son, as I, Smeags, have the ultimate proof!

Here is me, residing with a stackfull of Wii's! That's right! This picture was taken last month (ahem) last week, which proves that Wii's are everywhere, collecting dust just like they are on everyone's shelves! Mwehehehe!



Falkano said:
greenmedic88 said:
The only PS3 SKU that appears to be consistently available is the 80GB MGS4 bundle. Amazon has been out of the 40GB SKU over the last week for the first time since the SKU became available in abundance. It's currently only available through independent retailers on the site.

Not coincidentally, sales of the MGS4 bundle (the only SKU available direct through Amazon), have risen with the reduced availability of the 40GB SKU.

Levels of 40GB SKU stock are unquestionably dwindling as the 80GB Core replacement nears its shipping date.

Sales of the PS3 will very likely return to regular sales levels as soon as the $399 80GB Core SKU becomes widely available.

 

 But regular sales of the PS3 are around 40k. This is what i think people struggle to accept is that it could actually be the MGS4 effect has now died and things have returned to normal. Just because something sells high for a few weeks does not mean it will every week. I think next week we will see the same story as the previous 3, lower PS3 sales and people looking for excuses for them. Then we will get to next month with the 360 price cut and people will say it was expected to be low etc..

The MGS4 effect has completely subsided. There will be another surge in sales due to consumer cyclical shifts as the holidays approach, but that will have little to do with one game like MGS4 or its bundle SKU.

What we've been seeing over the last couple weeks, is that the 80GB MGS4 bundle has been stocked more readily than the 40GB SKU. Again, due to dwindling stock levels as production has ceased with the current production of its replacement 80GB Core.

What that means is for many consumers, the only PS3 they can buy is the MGS4 bundle, which is $100 more than the increasingly scarce 40GB SKU. Not everyone in the market for a PS3 even wants to play MGS4, and simply want a lower price.

Again, we'll see what happens once the 80GB Core is available in abundance at $399.

I don't expect a surge, but this whole "PS3 is dying" nonsense is just that. Once inventory levels normalize, so will sales numbers.

 



360 and Wii fanboys at war with something other than the PS3!?!??!

*grabs popcorn*



Wouldn't the fact that you can't get a PS3 or a Wii right now in many areas also add to 360 sales?

 

Edit: Not by my logic, but by Mr. Stickball's logic of competition between consoles. People want the console they want.

Edit2: Smeags, that pile looks like they are moving so fast they can't be rearranged to look nice and neat.



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NJ5 said:
greenmedic88 said:
The Wii is still selling rapidly because there is still an extremely large pool of consumers who have still been unable to simply walk into the retail outlet of their choice and buy one off the shelf (primarily in the NA, where sales have fluctuated the most, directly relative to levels of stock shipped to retail).

Until consumers can consistently buy a Wii at most retail outlets, hardware inventory levels, rather than hot software catalysts, will drive sales trends.

In short, Wii Sports, and to a lesser extent, Wii Fit is STILL selling consoles to non-traditional gamers.

While I agree with your conclusion, what exactly supports it here? Couldn't there equally be hordes of Wii-hungry traditional gamers finally scoring one every week?

Somewhere in between lies reality.

 

Naturally. Traditional gamers interested in buying a Wii are still competing with the "casual" non-traditional gamers for the same inventory. It's not like either demographic has a lock on sales trends, or that either demographic is solely responsible for driving sales.

 



Notice the sharp ups and downs on Wii, this would signify supply constraits.

Checking the NA chartz I notice that the sales for the Wii the same week of the last year were at 110k, they aren't far from the actual sales.

However the XBOX 360 increased more than 100% (40k last year and 89k this year) PS3 sales are the same than last year



Smeags said:
NJ5 said:

Anyone who believes the Wii doesn't have supply issues should at the very least be able to produce some photos (or even accounts) of Wiis piling up at stores.

Really, such a sudden and big drop wouldn't happen in the course of a week, even if some factors were making Wii demand go down.

 

 

Get ready to weep son, as I, Smeags, have the ultimate proof!

Here is me, residing with a stackfull of Wii's! That's right! This picture was taken last month (ahem) last week, which proves that Wii's are everywhere, collecting dust just like they are on everyone's shelves! Mwehehehe!

LOL. Nice face btw.

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

Shame. Quick to jump on the Wii is a fad band wagon when it dips a little below 100k for the first time in months. The PS3 is recovering (I think) from last week's *shortages*. How they ever had shortages is beyond me.

The 360 gets a nice boost from 20GB "liquidations". With a look like that and a $400 price point, the PS3 has an even bigger problem now with the 360.

The Wii has no announced big release for the rest of the year so, when one rolls around, these summer sales will be a temporary thing of the past.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

steven787 said:

Wouldn't the fact that you can't get a PS3 or a Wii right now in many areas also add to 360 sales?

 

Edit: Not by my logic, but by Mr. Stickball's logic of competition between consoles. People want the console they want.

Edit2: Smeags, that pile looks like they are moving so fast they can't be rearranged to look nice and neat.

Exactly.

Not only that, but consumers want the exact SKU at the price they are willing to pay.

Example: many consumers won't buy what they perceive as a stripped down 360 in the Arcade SKU at $279, but they will jump at the opportunity to buy a 20GB Pro SKU for a mere $20 more.

Consumers will not buy a PS3, if the only SKU they can find at retail is the MGS4 Bundle at $499, when A) They have no interest in MGS4, and B) they want a PS3 at $399 or less.