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Forums - Sales - Konami's Q1 Profit up 50 percent, Thank you Solid Snake!

kirby007 on 05 August 2008
darconi said:
According to kotaku's report:

"Konami lists Metal Gear Solid 4 sales for the quarter at 3.94 million"

http://kotaku.com/5033383/metal-gear-solid-4-is-a-giant-angry-sales-pac+man-ships-394m-copies

VGZ lists sales at 2.69 sold.

Is it just me or does 1.25 mil sitting on shelves seem a bit too high?

 

wouldn't really suprise me, it is one of the games for the ps3



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steven787 on 05 August 2008
DMeisterJ said:

Here's a nice picture of how much Snake had to do with this profit.

So do people still want to believe that MGS4 will be a financial travesty and have to be ported to the XBOX 360 as well?

 

MGS4 on 360 would probably not benefit Konami or Microsoft too much.  I always said this.

That's a pretty graph, why such an increase in Wii and 360?



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NJ5 on 05 August 2008
darconi said:
According to kotaku's report:

"Konami lists Metal Gear Solid 4 sales for the quarter at 3.94 million"

http://kotaku.com/5033383/metal-gear-solid-4-is-a-giant-angry-sales-pac+man-ships-394m-copies

VGZ lists sales at 2.69 sold.

Is it just me or does 1.25 mil sitting on shelves seem a bit too high?

A few errors there...

1- The kotaku report is wrong (as said by Gobias).

2- You're comparing different timeframes.

3- 1.25 million wouldn't be too high, but VGC actually says 800k (according to the correct data/timeframe).

 



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darconi on 05 August 2008
DMeisterJ said:
@ kirby

Because lots of people liked to say that MGS4 would have to be ported to make back all of the money it cost to make, and they'd only make it back by releasing a 360 version as well...

There's not enough info on the chart to support or refute that argument.  The pie chart only show % of total sales, without saying what the total sales are.  There's absolutely no info on how much they made and how much MGS4 dev cost to argue the point.

I agree they will make money on MGS4 with a moderate ROI but you can't argue the point with this data.

 

 



Zuhyc on 06 August 2008
steven787 said:
DMeisterJ said:

Here's a nice picture of how much Snake had to do with this profit.

So do people still want to believe that MGS4 will be a financial travesty and have to be ported to the XBOX 360 as well?

 

MGS4 on 360 would probably not benefit Konami or Microsoft too much.  I always said this.

That's a pretty graph, why such an increase in Wii and 360?

PES 08 had good sales on all systems, and probably some other japanese games for the Wii.

 



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iron_megalith on 06 August 2008
kirby007 said:
DMeisterJ said:

Here's a nice picture of how much Snake had to do with this profit.

So do people still want to believe that MGS4 will be a financial travesty and have to be ported to the XBOX 360 as well?

 

Why the hell do you say that?

Try asking those who say they'll port it to the ****other console**** because it won't make money or break even.

 



Onimusha12 on 06 August 2008

Considering MGS4's 57.3% of that quarterly profit is a little under $30m, I think its safe to assume the game is a good ways off from making back its $70m+ cost of development.

MGS4 still is a financial dissaster. Though to truly determine that we would have to know how much MGS4 sold in the first quarter to put things in proper context. Even if we assume MGS4 has made just as much money since the first quarter ended it would still be $10m beneath making its money back.

It's only a profit for the short term of this quarter and for this quarter's expenses, not for MGS4's development cost as a whole. Even then Konami is still making less than half of their revenue back.



Kyros on 06 August 2008

MGS4 still is a financial dissaster.


LOL you are funny.



Onimusha12 on 06 August 2008
Kyros said:
MGS4 still is a financial dissaster.


LOL you are funny.

 

 Actually I proved it in the same thread you quoted that from. The game isn't even half way to paying off its development cost. In fact I was being quite generous in assuming all of the 57.3% of Konami's earnings from the PS3 could be attributed directly to MGS4

It may have broken even by now, but that would depend on how much MGS4 actually sold in the first quarter.



forsaken0825 on 06 August 2008
Onimusha12 said:
Kyros said:
MGS4 still is a financial dissaster.


LOL you are funny.

 

Actually I proved it in the same thread you quoted that from. The game isn't even half way to paying off its development cost. In fact I was being quite generous in assuming all of the 57.3% of Konami's earnings from the PS3 could be attributed directly to MGS4.

 

Umm what are you takling about Konami said they needed only 1 millions copies sold to make up the fiancial lost and thus they did