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RolStoppable said:
Obliterator1700 said:
RolStoppable said:

You don't believe that people buy Wiis to play games in a new way?

He answered it...

So you believe that people buy a $250 console to swing a remote? Why can't they just use the remote that came with their TV?

So whats the new style of playing games? Plus a tv remote doens't have motion senser in it.

 

 



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steven787 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Viper1 said:
BMaker11 said:
Even though he didn't call the Wii a fad, I honestly believe there's an ounce of truth in it. I mean, what reason are people buying it? It can't be for the games...and don't say something like Mario or Zelda as reasons, because otherwise, the Gamecube would have beat everyone last gen. Excite Truck and NinjaBreadMan aren't whats making people buy this system, it's the novelty of swinging that remote.......

That's like saying the analog stick in the N64 made it a fad because people bought it to play games in a new way.

 

 

 

Where did the N64 end up?

It made Nintendo a lot of money, inspired 3D gameplay for the next generation, and has more games that generally excepted to be top of the genre in the last 15 years.

Ps1 has the honors of that.

 

 



Just when I was starting to get a little bored. Sony public relations came to brighten my day. I think it has been said often enough that the best public relations policy for Sony is to keep their public relations staff locked up behind thick walls. Then have those walls watched constantly by deaf mutes.

What they say isn't what matters it is how they say it. They throw out innuendos, half statements, buzz words, and noncommittal gibberish in an attempt to flabbergast the interviewer. In an inane attempt to cover up their gross incompetence on the subject at hand. Basically instead of having a comprehensive philosophy Sony instead allows for its public relations staff to fend for itself. I sometime suspect that they use persons who have no interest or experience with gaming. A marketing diploma is not a sufficient substitute you must be versed in the subject at hand.

Since their statements are gibberish, but are composed in what appears to be a logical if unorthodox manner. The reader can and will perceive them to mean any number of things. Given the verbal masturbation however its likely to be taken in a very negative context. You can always count on Sony public relations to spout bat shit crazy bull shit. Sony really needs to fix this problem, and if they are not going to hire assets knowledgeable about gaming. Then they should educate the ones they have they are sending them at pillboxes with an olive fork. How can they not get mowed down.

Being honest I think they would do better hiring some pot head gamer to talk up their console then these pompous windbags you couldn't tell the difference between a analog stick and a directional pad. Oh and one more thing this guy somehow forgot about last years memo. The PS3 is a game console first and a movie player second. Saying it the other way around pissed off third party developers. You know the people you need on your side. You really want those people to forget that millions of your consoles were only sold for movie viewing purposes, and that those people do not buy games.



RolStoppable said:
Viper1 said:
BMaker11 said:
Even though he didn't call the Wii a fad, I honestly believe there's an ounce of truth in it. I mean, what reason are people buying it? It can't be for the games...and don't say something like Mario or Zelda as reasons, because otherwise, the Gamecube would have beat everyone last gen. Excite Truck and NinjaBreadMan aren't whats making people buy this system, it's the novelty of swinging that remote.......

That's like saying the analog stick in the N64 made it a fad because people bought it to play games in a new way.

ssj12 said:

did everyone forget fads can last a generation? look at disco.

Hmm...

See my point Rol? Even if the Wii and all Wii based products are fads they can be insanely popular. Meaning calling the wii a fad isnt a bad thing at all.

 



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RolStoppable said:
Obliterator1700 said:
RolStoppable said:
Obliterator1700 said:
RolStoppable said:

You don't believe that people buy Wiis to play games in a new way?

He answered it...

So you believe that people buy a $250 console to swing a remote? Why can't they just use the remote that came with their TV?

So whats the new style of playing games? Plus a tv remote doens't have motion senser in it.

Have you ever played a Wii game? For example the pointer of the Wiimote makes games like Resident Evil 4 much more comfortable to play and swinging your arm to play Bowling, Tennis or Golf is really fun.

Yes to your first question. Look at your posts before you make any sort of conclusions.

 

 



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steven787 said:
RolStoppable said:
Obliterator1700 said:
RolStoppable said:
BMaker11 said:
Even though he didn't call the Wii a fad, I honestly believe there's an ounce of truth in it. I mean, what reason are people buying it? It can't be for the games...and don't say something like Mario or Zelda as reasons, because otherwise, the Gamecube would have beat everyone last gen. Excite Truck and NinjaBreadMan aren't whats making people buy this system, it's the novelty of swinging that remote.......

...to play all the games. This helps to kill the "been there, done that" feeling that started to occur to more and more gamers in the last several years. Improving the graphics alone just doesn't cut it anymore which is reflected by the sales of the HD consoles.

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You don't believe that people buy Wiis to play games in a new way?

 

No, they buy Wii's to piss off nerds who like HiDef graphics and online communities whose favorite color is brown... (Dammit, that's me.)

Edit: Disco is still going quite strong thank you very much.  I bet more people can sing along to more disco songs than rap songs.

I agree with you. I always believed that a song like YMCA is more recognizable than songs of Michael Jackson or even The Beatles.

OT: Am I the only one to notice that he only mentioned Rockband and Guitar Hero for third-party casual games? Of course he couldn't mention Dance Dance Revolution that is coming to every platform except PS3. I'm going to get DDR X later this year for my PS2. I can see why people are casual players are choosing PS2 over PS3.



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ssj12 said:

did everyone forget fads can last a generation? look at disco.

*quote from another post*

Even if the Wii and all Wii based products are fads they can be insanely popular. Meaning calling the wii a fad isnt a bad thing at all.

While it's technically true that the word fad could be applied without it being a bad thing I really don't think that's the case here.  The reason Wii fans get upset at the word "fad" is because whenever somebody brings it up they are using it with an underlying negative connotation. 

When the Wii launched the word "fad" was thrown around as people predicted that Wii sales would crash hard and crash soon.  Over a year and a half has passed and that has proven not to be the case.  It's fine to consider the Wii a "fad" if you are doing it without assuming that the Wii will fall to sub 200k sales WW before year's end but that's not the mentality of many posters/bloggers.

 



We lead, not follow

All companies take ideas from each other. Are you telling me trophies aren't just achievements? Motion control in the SixAxis wasn't inspired by the Wii Remote in any way? Custom soundtracks? Who cares if they copy if people get features that add to the system and make gameplay more enjoyable. They shouldn't be so arrogant about it.



Sony leads in taking other ideas and trying to make them better, though I don't agree with that idea in any way, it's what they do best, and they make some good things like the PSP but rarely do they do anything to make it unique.



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OK Fine Sony! You win. I'm a senior citizen at 62. I've owned a PS2, much Sony electronic equipment at home and as a purchasing advisor at work. I''m even typing this on a Sony All in One neat but overpriced computers. I was considering possibly picking up a PS3 to compliment my Wii.

WELL I KNOW WHEN I'M NOT WELCOME. SONY DOESN'T WANT SENIORS ... THEY GOT IT.

I NOT ONLY WILL NEVER BUY A PS3, I SWARE I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER F**KING THING FROM THOSE ARROGANT SOBS. 

It may not mean much to a big corporation but between home and my purchasing authority they just added another 10 -20 Grand or so to their PS3 mountain of debt

AND SONY CAN KISS MY SENIOR CITIZEN ASS.