^ You under estimate the power of casuals...
Did you miss the middle 2/3rds of Microsoft's E3 press Conference which was all about impressing the casuals by bringing online versions of popular gameshows etc, like 1 to 100 to XBOX Live along with such promotions as Netflicks and more advanced personalized avatars than the Mii's?
| baph777 said: Almost all of the games that the major sites showed in their post E3 2008 most anticipated games for the remainder of 2008 are 360 and PS3 titles. The only Wii games that appear on a few of the lists are Animal Crossing; however, one can only hope that what Nintendo showed at E3 wasn't really the best parts of the game as it didn't even seem to match up to the Gamecube version; The Blob, and Little King Story. With the wealth of AAA titles coming to the PS3 and 360 this holiday season plus games like Metal Gear Solid 4 and GTA IV that many people are still going to have on their holiday wish lists, it can be expected that during the 2008 holiday season, Wii sales levels will fall to Gamecube levels.
And it is already starting. Looking at this week's sales chart for America, I notice that at $299 with NCAA Football '09, the 360 comes within less than 3,000 units of topping. At $199.99 with Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Dead Space, Banjo Kazooie, Viva Pinata 2, Too Human, and Tales of Vesperia, the 360 dominates. |
If we're using games that will have been out for nearly a year already by holiday-time, I'll see your MGS and GTA, raising you Brawl, Mario Kart, and Wii Fit 
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And the Wii has a much bigger lineup than those you mentioned, but I won't list it again.
Asking if the Wii is running out of steam because it's not getting any more accessories is a bit like asking if a play is in the final act because all of the main characters have been introduced...
Sky Render - Sanity is for the weak.
At any rate, Fallout 3 and Gears of War 2 are going to be the two big games of Christmas '08, neither one is coming to the Wii and you can buy them on a console that is both superior and more affordable than the Wii. Also, multiplatform titles like Prince of Persia (is it even coming to the Wii?), Call of Duty: World at War, and Tomb Raider Underworld are going to be much better on the 360 than they are going to be on the Wii. The Sony Playstation 3 also has quite a few games that are going to be vastly superior to anything on the Wii this holiday season. They include Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, and Valkyria Chronicles.
It is true that if the whole world is composed of nothing but idiots that don't care about the quality of games they buy and only want something with the word Nintendo on it, then the Wii will continue to sell like hot cakes. However, if it isn't then I expect the other two consoles to do a bit of catching up and possibly in the case of the 360 even taking back its position as the number one selling console in America later this year because Nintendo really bombed at E3 2008 and failed to show anything new that would make someone whom hasn't already been interested in purchasing a Wii feel compelled to do so.
| baph777 said: At any rate, Fallout 3 and Gears of War 2 are going to be the two big games of Christmas '08, neither one is coming to the Wii and you can buy them on a console that is both superior and more affordable than the Wii. Also, multiplatform titles like Prince of Persia (is it even coming to the Wii?), Call of Duty: World at War, and Tomb Raider Underworld are going to be much better on the 360 than they are going to be on the Wii. The Sony Playstation 3 also has quite a few games that are going to be vastly superior to anything on the Wii this holiday season. They include Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, and Valkyria Chronicles. |
If you're talking about sales Gears of War 2 will be one of several huge titles this Christmas (Animal Crossing Wii has the potential to devistate it though) and Fallout 3 will probably not sell nearly as well as you expect; if you're talking critical acclaim, Gears of War 2 will probably do well but I wouldn't count on (or count out) any other titles.
As for the highlighted point, the majority of gamers may not care what YOU think is a high quality game but don't dismiss their game purchases by saying that these people are idiots. While cinematic single player experiences, or strong online-multiplayer, may be valued assets in your mind many gamers are currently (and always have) bought games based on how much fun they're to play in a social situation; games like Halo, Super Smash Bros. and Mario Kart built their popularity based on how much fun they are in local multiplayer. There is also the fact that more complicated games (with large storylines) are not necessarily better than simple games, for example Metal Gear Solid is not necessarily a better game the Checkers, so you shouldn't make the assumption that your preferences are universal or look down at people for having a different preference.
They say there's no accounting for taste... I guess in a world where games that are actually fun are derided by the hardcore demographic for being "too simple" in favor of games that are complex but a hassle to play, I can't argue with that.
Sky Render - Sanity is for the weak.
| baph777 said: At any rate, Fallout 3 and Gears of War 2 are going to be the two big games of Christmas '08, neither one is coming to the Wii and you can buy them on a console that is both superior and more affordable than the Wii. Also, multiplatform titles like Prince of Persia (is it even coming to the Wii?), Call of Duty: World at War, and Tomb Raider Underworld are going to be much better on the 360 than they are going to be on the Wii. The Sony Playstation 3 also has quite a few games that are going to be vastly superior to anything on the Wii this holiday season. They include Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, and Valkyria Chronicles. |
I bet 2 cookies on the fact that you will see "trading 360 + ps3 for Wii" threads around christmas.
Anyone who would trade their PS3 for just a Wii is obviously suffering from some kind of mental impairment , unless the Wii owner throws some stuff in to make the deal sweet.
| Million said: Anyone who would trade their PS3 for just a Wii is obviously suffering from some kind of mental impairment , unless the Wii owner throws some stuff in to make the deal sweet. |
Well at the time when the Wii sold out you cold find it on amazon fore more then a price of the PS3. and if people want to trade (Witch I think happened at that time) them then that’s there choice that doesn’t make them suffer from what you said :P
Actually it is like saying that you are suffering from the same thing if you buy it fore the same price ;)
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Roma said:
Well at the time when the Wii sold out you cold find it on amazon fore more then a price of the PS3. and if people want to trade (Witch I think happened at that time) them then that’s there choice that doesn’t make them suffer from what you said :P
Actually it is like saying that you are suffering from the same thing if you buy it fore the same price ;)
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Well your at the very least not very smart if you know you'll be able to get it for /2 price in 2 weeks.
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