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ps3 its expencive, and wii dont..
thats why.
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Diomedes1976 said:
Various reasons

First ,it was supply costrained

Second ,Game Republic last games have been midly received so the developers doesnt have a lot of word of mouth behind .

Three ,poorly advertised .

1) It didn't totally sell through its 20k. (More like 17k)

2) That doesn't matter... If it's reviewed well, then it might do a little better then 17k, wouldn't it?! Cause 17k is like NOTHING?!

3) Yea right... It got good reviews... That's somekind of advertising...

 

Just admit that the PS3' market isn't breathing (Maybe at the moment) and thus your good games for your PS3 aren't selling... Just start to admit!!!... Cause u can't dwindle around the facts forever! PS3 and the games DON'T SELL!!! (Example: Where are the PSP and PS3 games in the top 50 of US till June 24th?!)... Or this one: Why is PS3 selling below 10k a week in Japan?! Whilst Wii is around 70k a week?! Or this one: Why is PS3 below the magic 100k line in US per month?!... PS2 dropped below 200k only twice in it's good days... let alone 100k...

Just admit!



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StarcraftManiac said:
ckmlb said:
Dolla Dolla said:
Cause retailers didn't have faith in the game. According to VGC, it sold through 85% of its 20k retailer pre-orders, and many shops sold out.

Bingo. Supply constrained apparently.


Yeah... LOL You'd want that wouldn't you ... Fans and their excuses


This is according to reports not to me. 



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ckmlb said:
StarcraftManiac said:
ckmlb said:
Dolla Dolla said:
Cause retailers didn't have faith in the game. According to VGC, it sold through 85% of its 20k retailer pre-orders, and many shops sold out.

Bingo. Supply constrained apparently.


Yeah... LOL You'd want that wouldn't you ... Fans and their excuses


This is according to reports not to me. 


It may be the case that the game sold out at some locations because it only shipped 20,000 units but being that there was no riot I think it is also fair to say that even with an unlimited supply the game would not have sold much more than 20,000 units.



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StarcraftManiac said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Various reasons

First ,it was supply costrained

Second ,Game Republic last games have been midly received so the developers doesnt have a lot of word of mouth behind .

Three ,poorly advertised .

1) It didn't totally sell through its 20k. (More like 17k)

2) That doesn't matter... If it's reviewed well, then it might do a little better then 17k, wouldn't it?! Cause 17k is like NOTHING?!

3) Yea right... It got good reviews... That's somekind of advertising...

 

Just admit that the PS3' market isn't breathing (Maybe at the moment) and thus your good games for your PS3 aren't selling... Just start to admit!!!... Cause u can't dwindle around the facts forever! PS3 and the games DON'T SELL!!! (Example: Where are the PSP and PS3 games in the top 50 of US till June 24th?!)... Or this one: Why is PS3 selling below 10k a week in Japan?! Whilst Wii is around 70k a week?! Or this one: Why is PS3 below the magic 100k line in US per month?!... PS2 dropped below 200k only twice in it's good days... let alone 100k...

Just admit!


Calm down .

Back in the day the first PS2 year saw more hardware than software sold in Japan  .And not great weekly sales in hardware either .Difference was that then had plenty of stock when it was released and for that holiday season so they put out quite quickly 1.5 million out ,but for the rest of the year the sales were slow .Better than PS3 ones right now ,but slow nonetheless .

 As for the Top 50 not having PSP and PS3 games I dont take this sites charts as facts .I mean ,If I had to I would suppose that games as Pro Evolution Soccer 6 on the PSP ,or Virtua Tennis 3 or Afterburner have sold 0 .I am specially sceptic in the PSP numbers ,PS3 ones could be ok .Next week you will see The Darkness ,Transformers and Rainbow Six Vegas in the Top 50 if thats so important to you .And next Ninja Gaiden will enter also the american charts .

Games that appel to customers have sold in the PS3 ,as example Gundam Mussou or even Resistance ,the crappy Gundam and RR7 .Even NGS is doing ok for it being a port .Its not mad numbers but they sell ,its not as every PS3 customer only wants the console as a BR player .Folksouls ,in any case ,hasnt been one of those games ,and thats why this post is why being a JRPG and all .

Finally some should  put the foots in the grounds .A megahit in Japan has traditionally been 100 000 units sold .Maybe right now if we consider the market is somewhat bigger we could say it is 120K sold .With that kind of sales the game is more than amortized .Selling 4 million or two million is great bt not the common pattern ,only some casual games on the DS and the big series of RPG in Japan manage that .Not because not selling 1million you are flopping.Probably with 75K you are making worthy the development and with 100K you have good profit  .Additionally ,the traditional pattern of sales in Japan has been strong first week sales and declining fast after that .The Training and NIntendogs games,or Wii Sports and Wii Play in the Wii  ,as Tetris before it ,are in a games consoles as the DS but are another kind of thing .If you want further proof of that you have the traditional games in the Wii and their showing in the Wii,and those I have to remind you arent performing better that the PS3 ones specially having in count the big difference in userbase  .Thats what the industry is about ,not about some casual games or minigames that each hardware buyer buy and only benefits Nintendo .

 



FolkSouls needs to be released in America asap. I know tons of people who are waiting for a good RPG to buy a PS3 and FolkSouls is one of the many good RPGs. There are also the 14 others in production at this moment.



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Diomedes, if you don't take these charts as fact, why don't you look at Famitsu and MC charts as well? They say the same things.



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Diomedes1976 said:
StarcraftManiac said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Various reasons

First ,it was supply costrained

Second ,Game Republic last games have been midly received so the developers doesnt have a lot of word of mouth behind .

Three ,poorly advertised .

1) It didn't totally sell through its 20k. (More like 17k)

2) That doesn't matter... If it's reviewed well, then it might do a little better then 17k, wouldn't it?! Cause 17k is like NOTHING?!

3) Yea right... It got good reviews... That's somekind of advertising...

 

Just admit that the PS3' market isn't breathing (Maybe at the moment) and thus your good games for your PS3 aren't selling... Just start to admit!!!... Cause u can't dwindle around the facts forever! PS3 and the games DON'T SELL!!! (Example: Where are the PSP and PS3 games in the top 50 of US till June 24th?!)... Or this one: Why is PS3 selling below 10k a week in Japan?! Whilst Wii is around 70k a week?! Or this one: Why is PS3 below the magic 100k line in US per month?!... PS2 dropped below 200k only twice in it's good days... let alone 100k...

Just admit!


Calm down .

Back in the day the first PS2 year saw more hardware than software sold in Japan .And not great weekly sales in hardware either .Difference was that then had plenty of stock when it was released and for that holiday season so they put out quite quickly 1.5 million out ,but for the rest of the year the sales were slow .Better than PS3 ones right now ,but slow nonetheless .

As for the Top 50 not having PSP and PS3 games I dont take this sites charts as facts .I mean ,If I had to I would suppose that games as Pro Evolution Soccer 6 on the PSP ,or Virtua Tennis 3 or Afterburner have sold 0 .I am specially sceptic in the PSP numbers ,PS3 ones could be ok .Next week you will see The Darkness ,Transformers and Rainbow Six Vegas in the Top 50 if thats so important to you .And next Ninja Gaiden will enter also the american charts .

Games that appel to customers have sold in the PS3 ,as example Gundam Mussou or even Resistance ,the crappy Gundam and RR7 .Even NGS is doing ok for it being a port .Its not mad numbers but they sell ,its not as every PS3 customer only wants the console as a BR player .Folksouls ,in any case ,hasnt been one of those games ,and thats why this post is why being a JRPG and all .

Finally some should put the foots in the grounds .A megahit in Japan has traditionally been 100 000 units sold .Maybe right now if we consider the market is somewhat bigger we could say it is 120K sold .With that kind of sales the game is more than amortized .Selling 4 million or two million is great bt not the common pattern ,only some casual games on the DS and the big series of RPG in Japan manage that .Not because not selling 1million you are flopping.Probably with 75K you are making worthy the development and with 100K you have good profit .Additionally ,the traditional pattern of sales in Japan has been strong first week sales and declining fast after that .The Training and NIntendogs games,or Wii Sports and Wii Play in the Wii ,as Tetris before it ,are in a games consoles as the DS but are another kind of thing .If you want further proof of that you have the traditional games in the Wii and their showing in the Wii,and those I have to remind you arent performing better that the PS3 ones specially having in count the big difference in userbase .Thats what the industry is about ,not about some casual games or minigames that each hardware buyer buy and only benefits Nintendo .

 

hmmm a bit more misinformation here. Where's it coming from? Oh surprise surprise, Diomedes at it again! You really are becoming the King of Misinformation aren't you?

"Back in the day the first PS2 year saw more hardware than software sold in Japan  .And not great weekly sales in hardware either .Difference was that then had plenty of stock when it was released and for that holiday season so they put out quite quickly 1.5 million out ,but for the rest of the year the sales were slow .Better than PS3 ones right now ,but slow nonetheless ."

Yeah the PS2 really struggled to take off in Japan, didn't it?It really had some low hardware sales when it launched...

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS2&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS3&reg3=Japan&align=1

it only launched better than the Wii. And we all know the Wii launched terrible in Japan. Wow, look at that, the PS2 was only the second best hardware launch ever in Japan (after the GBA). And they hadn't even had a holiday season in Japan yet. Poor Sony, they must have been really upset at that terrible PS2 launch, just like right now they're not too worried about PS3.

I didn't manage to find a single week where PS2 hardware outsold software. If anyone can find one then please post it. I'm sure it doesn't exist though. Because Diomedes is above evidence, all the evidence he needs is right inside his head!



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If sales are consistent with last week; then I'd say that the delievery was supply-constrained.



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