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NiKKoM on 29 July 2008

Well that was a nice response to my post.. but I see that others have responded... thanks guys..

Good night!



 

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twesterm on 29 July 2008
forevercloud3000 said:
Fishie said:
forevercloud3000 said:
@Fishie
I dont know where u got that info from but it sounds like a blatent lie! FFVII was not stolen from NIN. NIN was suppose to put an adapter on their system called "SNES CD" also dubbed the Playstation but cancelled it half way in and joined with philips. Sony decided to join the fray and came up with their own machine. SE was already betting on this attachement for the SNES but after it was canceled it would take to long to go back from scratch. So they moved. Sony does NOT BUY EXCLUSIVES.

 

 You sir are either ignorant or a collosal idiot.

I think its the former.

as sNintendo was NOT ALLOWED to use a CD attachment anymore after they first pissed of Phillips and then pissed of Sony(the Playstation wupposed to be the snesCD attachment/standalone console)Sony continued on to further develop the playstation after Nintendo shunned them a


nd Phillips found loopholes in the Nintendo contract that allowed them to rape Nintendo`s beloved franchises for a bunch of really shitty games.

 

Um, i think u are the collosal idiot, as most of what u just said is what I JUST SAID. I just didnt say anything about the part with Nin being raped for exclusives. So how exactly am I the idiot? We just came to the same conclusion.

 

Well I think this thread is abotu done.  Also, great job on insulting someone 15 minutes after I warned you in this thread and through a message not to insult people.  In the future, the proper to handle this isn't to call them a name back, it's to report them.



 

FJ-Warez on 29 July 2008

There is so much fail in so many levels...

First you are taking the matter as a personal issue...

forevercloud3000 said:

Ok this is starting to drive me crazy!

 

Stealing?? More like getting it for free or sometimes getting it for something...

forevercloud3000 said:

only thing left for M$ is to countlessly steal PS3's

 

Making imaginary great games... (There is no proof of such a great game)

forevercloud3000 said:

Yet I cannot help but feel that GTAIV is a shodow of what it COULD have been. If the game had of stayed exclusive we would have seen a much bigger and in turn better game. Blu Ray needs no explanation on how it offers that.

 

Forgeting that videogames is a business, and as other games driven by money (SE make games to gain money) and again making up imaginary great games (No gameplay in this case, no plot revealed, nothing about this game is really know, but for you right now this game sucks because is going to be downsized, even if you don´t know what was going to be the final product)

forevercloud3000 said:

I have lost all love for this game. Not becuz it is no longer EXCLUSIVE, i dont like the direction of downsizing a potentially spectacular game just so u can make more money.

 

So, did you knew the real intentions of SE, you knew for sure that they will take full  advantage of the PS3 specs???

forevercloud3000 said:

Now the game CANNOT, i repeat, CANNOT fully take on the PS3's specs

 

Taking your opinion of the matter as the voice of the masses...

forevercloud3000 said:

In an essence, we ALL have lost a game that would have blown our minds, now instead will only slightly peak our interests.

 

Then you think that the games that take the multiplat path were somehow property of Sony and the Sony fanboys, and now they are devaluated since they are on the 360 too..

forevercloud3000 said:

You only praise this trend because it means you are getting most of OUR great material (which are no longer great really seeing as they are weaker games now)

 

Again talking things without previous knowledge, Halo belongs to MS, Mass Effect and Fable are published by MS, and like Bioshock could end up on the PS3 later, maybe not... but the deal is clear, the games are exclusive because MS gives then a better deal...(Which usually involves putting a lot of advertising)

forevercloud3000 said:

If MultiPlat is SOOOO GREAT than why doesnt PS3 get Mass Effect, Halo, Fable, etc? They are all 3rd Party stuff and free to do as they please.

 

Later you think that by going multi, they are not going to sell more, and you only proof is the forums posts, somehow you managed to elude all logic to make a pointless remark... And now probably one of the most saddest ideas I have ever heard:

forevercloud3000 said:

The only reason PS3 stuff is going MultiPlat is MS's deep pockets. There is no EXTRA money to be made from going multiplat as anyone who was ever trully interested in a developers game would have bought the system it was exclusive too. This was proven as most 360 posters on forums respond as "YAY! now I DONT have to buy a PS3!".

The comments on the forum are not a mirror of the reaction of the market... let me put you a simple example, Bioshock did ok on the PC and the 360, according to your logic, if the PS3 version would came out at the same time, they should sold the same amount of copies no more, no less, but now, the game is coming to the PS3... by your logic, the game will not sell on the PS3, since all the copies were already sold to the 360 and the PC...

 

After that you point to something really, strange, the game if was 360 exclusive and took full advantage of the console should be great, why did you assume that sharing the game with the PS3 didn´t push the 360 to the limit??

forevercloud3000 said:

Id rather see FFXIII go exclusive to 360 than get a dumbed down version of it becuz it must be even on both sides. I cannot think of one FF (besides XI) that was EVER MultiPlat. Square had the right idea that if you keep a game on one system it will in turn take advantage of the hardware.

 

Later you only put your point of view as an explanation of a event, which btw, most of us have agree that was mostly a money issue mixed with the threadment of Nintendo in the good old PSOne days... (CDs were cheapers, and the PSOne was cheaper to develop)

forevercloud3000 said:

And just so you know the split of the main FF series and Nintendo had nothing to do with "Money". It had all to do with NIN shafting them  in a very vital deal to there nxt title, FFVII. This is what made them split and go pro Sony, not becuz of money becuz at that time NIN was the dominant console. I hate to see this example go on missused .

Then you twisted the reality in order to support your point, Happy already post about it...

forevercloud3000 said:

CDs? No one wanted to go with CDs as a gaming format, it was more costly than cartridge.

 

After thet you go again with an issue really debateable, like Sony putting money to alienate a version of TomRaider on the PSOne days (An issue already disccused long time ago on this forums)

forevercloud3000 said:

Sony NEVER has paid for exclusivity. Companies draw to them becuz of their good business ethics. This is y even tho many developers have defected, many still hold strong, and dont let MONEY from MS rob them of their integrity.

 

Even if Sony doesn´t paid to third parties now at this moment, they can re-evaluate the situation, making your point invalid...

Kaz Hirai: Sony can 're-evaluate' paying for PS3 exclusives

A long time ago, Jack Tretton mentioned that Sony will not pay for PS3 exclusivity in this generation of games. "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for the lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform," he noted. Instead, Sony tries to seduce developers to make better games on the system, and use the appeal of the PS3 hardware to secure exclusives.

This strategy has meant a bevy of formerly PS2-exclusive series to become multiplatform successes on Xbox 360 and PC. However, Kaz Hirai told ThreeSpeech "that's something that we can re-evaluate." High-profile exclusives act as differentiating reasons for system purchases. PS3 has a strong first-party line-up, but it will need to pursue third-party exclusives with an even stronger bite. However, with games being so expensive in this generation, such a proposal may be difficult. "It's also something that the publishers need to make a business decision on. Ultimately, it becomes a dialogue – if it makes sense for them to go exclusive, that's a business decision that they need to make. But generally speaking, because of the investments that publishers need to make in this round of hardware, it's going to be more difficult for publishers to make that decision."

I think you need to go back re-evaluate your argument and post it only like a rant...

 

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