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FaRmLaNd on 25 July 2008

Their are a number of reasons the ps3 isn't as dominate as the ps2 was.

1: Lots of negative press when it first came out. You all know the people that say "ps3 has no games" or the ps3 is "too expensive". This negative press was damaging early on though that stigma is faltering thankfully.

2: The wii effectively disrupted the marketplace and expanded the potential pools of buyers. Thus Nintendo took all the momentum and expanded on it.

3: The initial pricepoint was steep.

4: Lots of delays and lost exclusives.

5: A stronger xbox brand this gen.

6: Prohibitive cost of development. Its pretty simple, if your making an hd game since the 360 has a larger install base and the games going to cost a lot to develop you might aswell make it multi-platform.

7: Sony initial arrogance eg the ps3 would sell 6 mill without any games or whatever they said.

8: Difficulty in creating games for the ps3. Look at all the inferior ports that the ps3 got early in its life. This only contributed to the negative press and wold of mouth that surrounded the console.

9: Lack of any great number of games that appeal to the Japanese

Obviously lots of these points are debatable and/or you can come up with many more. Many of them are obvious but it wasn't one reason that made Sony lose the majority of its market share, but instead lots of them working together. Though the biggest obviously is the wii's disruption of the market.



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forevercloud3000 on 25 July 2008
omgwtfbbq said:
?? Apart from the thread title completely not matching the content of your post, I don't see how you ended up with a price of $800 for an equivalent Xbox360. For example, why buy a HD-DVD drive? Why the hell did you add the cost of a hard drive to the cost of an arcade instead of just buying the Pro?

Real Price: $300 + $30 for play and charge kit + Live subscription

 

what my OP is basically saying is it is all becuz of price. No matter how u spin it. It is basically becuz of how costly the PS3 is, or at least how it SEEMS, compared to the 360 that ppl choose one over the other. Not to offend anyone, but consumers are STUPID(at least the average one is). If u dangle a small price tag in front of them they are like a cat with a ball of yarn. Yet they always look over the all inclusive deals. I see quite a few ignorant ppl ( in the litteral sense) walk in my store with no clue what the PS3 has to offer for such a hefty price and just feel "They are just tryin to TAKE MY MONAY!"

 

And the reason I used the bottom one cuz its the cheapest. Yet even if I did use the Pro SKU it still comes out to more than the PS3 standards as u probably already know. Only further proves my point



      

      

      

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NiKKoM on 25 July 2008

I asked Picard if he wanted to do his facepalm move once more in responce of your thread...

But when he saw your thread...



 

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colonelstubbs on 25 July 2008
NiKKoM said:

I asked Picard if he wanted to do his facepalm move once more in responce of your thread...

But when he saw your thread...

 

 You cant kill Patrick Stewart! Stupid fucking thread!



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forevercloud3000 on 25 July 2008
FaRmLaNd said:

Their are a number of reasons the ps3 isn't as dominate as the ps2 was.

1: Lots of negative press when it first came out. You all know the people that say "ps3 has no games" or the ps3 is "too expensive". This negative press was damaging early on though that stigma is faltering thankfully.

TRUE

2: The wii effectively disrupted the marketplace and expanded the potential pools of buyers. Thus Nintendo took all the momentum and expanded on it.

Not really, The Wii is in an entirely different bracket seeing as it has braught in ppl who originally never played games. A few vets went that route but not the vast majority. Majority are still waiting to decide on either a PS3 or 360.

3: The initial pricepoint was steep.

True

4: Lots of delays and lost exclusives.
Also True but this holds no baring on sales becuz, proved by the fact GTA4 didnt move many consoles yet MGS4 did, MultiPlat stuff has no effect on console sales. PPl wait to see "What can I get on this system that I cant get on that one?" And when they decide they buy MultiPlat stuff as well.


5: A stronger xbox brand this gen.
Not Really, It just got here first. Oh, and they are a WHOLE lot more agressive than last time.


6: Prohibitive cost of development. Its pretty simple, if your making an hd game since the 360 has a larger install base and the games going to cost a lot to develop you might aswell make it multi-platform.
THE SYSTEM DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER INSTALL ANYMORE! A few Mill more that a console that is already closee to like a 15mil mark is not significant enough to warrent going MultiPlat. That is the scape goat excuse for their actions. The PS3 and 360 sales are a mere 4-6mill away from each other. The reason for majority of this gen going Multi is Microsofts money, thats it. Think about it, y did alot of games go multiplat last gen if the Xbox camp was only at 13mil while the PS2 was at like 140mill?


7: Sony initial arrogance eg the ps3 would sell 6 mill without any games or whatever they said.
They were kinda right. Their system has proven to have much less install of games than the opposition yet they are relatively close in sales and continue to out sell 360 month after month.


8: Difficulty in creating games for the ps3. Look at all the inferior ports that the ps3 got early in its life. This only contributed to the negative press and wold of mouth that surrounded the console.

True

9: Lack of any great number of games that appeal to the Japanese

I think u have mixed PS3 up with 360. They are the ones who should fear for dear life in Japan. Their install there is less than abismal.

Obviously lots of these points are debatable and/or you can come up with many more. Many of them are obvious but it wasn't one reason that made Sony lose the majority of its market share, but instead lots of them working together. Though the biggest obviously is the wii's disruption of the market.

 

 



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 on 25 July 2008
colonelstubbs said:
forevercloud3000 said:

Ok, Its me Again, Bringing my knowledge from your neigborhood game stop :D! I just like to get some of my experiences from my job off my chest. I tend to get into alot of "Gaming" arguments with friends and patrons as they love to challenge my Gaming Intellect(SP?). Ok So I'm sitting in my store and a friend comes in to harrass me as usual while Im tending to a customer. Here is what went down...

Customer: Which of the two are better? PS3 or 360?

Friend: Dont bet a PS3!!! IT SUCX BIG TIME!

ME: Why is that?

Friend: It has no games!

Me: it has fewer games.

Friend: 360 has Halo, Cod4, Bioshock,Madden,Blue Dragon, Bad Company, UT3, etc...

Me: Ok...Mediocre,MultiPlat,MultiPlat,MultiPlat,Mediocre,MultiPlat,MultiPlat,etc...

Me:And PS3 has MGS4, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword, when It comes to exclusives PS3 is unmatched really.

Friend:PS3 Costs MORE!

Me:Sigh! Ok,PS3 is $400-500, right? and the bottom 360 is 270.

for a bottom teir 360 for 300 u dont get a harddrive which means...

120 for a 20GB hardrive

Seeing as the PS3 has BluRay, to match that u need HDDVD....

another 200 bucks, but i dont advise seeing as HDDVD has already LOST!

and dont forget ur controllers use batteries....

So expect to shell out 5 bucks every so often or buy the Play and Charge kit for 30 bones

Lastly in order to play online it costs 50 bucks a yr, meaning if u had it for at LEAST 2 yrs it comes to 100 bucks. and another 100 for a wifi adapter if so need it.

Total for a 360 bundle that rivals the PS3's package, roughly in the 800 range.

Friend: So?

Me: The Fact that the PS3 comes with a built in Wifi, rechargable controllers, Blu Ray player to make it future proof, and free online gaming all for a substatially lower price point than what Microsoft in actuallity is charging? Priceless!

Friend:.........

Customer:Um....Can I get a PS3 then?

 

 

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Hawk on 25 July 2008

Damn it, you got me. Your friend brainwashed me into the 360.



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CrashMan on 25 July 2008

Uh, 'Vets' bought their systems on day 1. No 'hardcore' gamer has been hemming and hawing over which system to buy for 2 years.

And most 'gamers' I know own a Wii...



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Squilliam on 25 July 2008

Seriously, im pretty sure you work at McDonalds and you're making the shit up to make yourself seem more impressive and boost your self-esteem. (Understandable)

If you don't work at McDonalds and you do actually work there - then I think you still have problems.



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gebx on 25 July 2008

Real gamers use land lines and spit on wifi!

Real gamers play video games at home and watch movies in theaters!!

Real gamers buy 360's!!!

 

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