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WKC looks a lot better than the FF13 vids I saw here a bit back, but they were old. Will be a big game though. it seems Sony is keeping quiet about it, probably to use as a weapon at TGS.



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@Soriku

U seem to sprout bullshit too. WKC has a lot of CG in it and I've seen it as well... how much u know!



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Soriku said:
shanbcn said:
WKS budget and development time is on par with FF games which is the reason many are hyped about it.

 

Development time? I doubt it. FF XIII started before FF XII. Budget? Also doubt it. SE knowss how to spend money and they'll likely use a lot of CG which cost a lot of money while WKC is using no CG (it could be few CG...but I doubt it). I don't know where you keep spouting this BS from.

WKC will use quite a few CGI scenes if the trailers are of any indication.  Many are hyped for WKC because of the talent behind it and nothing to do with budget and development time.  It also helps that WKC has FF-calibur graphics.  And, if the budget isn't on par with FF, than why are the graphics great?

 



@Riachu

well said!



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HanzoTheRazor said:
WKC looks a lot better than the FF13 vids I saw here a bit back, but they were old. Will be a big game though. it seems Sony is keeping quiet about it, probably to use as a weapon at TGS.

WKC is one of the big exclusives for the PS3, especially now that FFXIII is multiplatform.

 



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Dodece quietly walks into the fur ball. Surveys the scene, and decides to enter the fray. Happy in the knowledge that his logic bombardment cannon has a proven track record of obliterating sheer stupidity with little to no residue. Commence the assault.

PS3 total sales 14.48mil

Valkyrie Chronicles sales 140,000
Console attach rate less then 1%
Japan attach rate 6%

Enchanted arms sales 150,000
Console attach rate just over 1%
Japan attach rate no data available

Dark Kingdom sales 120,000
Console attach rate less then 1%
Japan attach rate less then 1%

Oblivion sales 740,000
Console attach rate 5%
Japan attach rate 3%

Xbox 360 total sales 19.88mil

Lost Odyssey total sales 760,000
Console attach rate 5%
Japan attach rate 17%

Blue Dragon total sales 499,000
Console attach rate 2.5%
Japan attach rate 35%

Eternal sonata total sales 260,000
Console attach rate 1%
Japan attach rate 13%

Oblivion total sales 2.51mil
Console attach rate 12.5%
Japan attach rate 13%

Basically what these figures are telling us is that the 360 has the higher sales volume. Has the higher global attach rate. Has the higher attach rate within Japan. Apparently the 360 owners in Japan are more infatuated with the genre then their PS3 brethren which love their RPGs to death literally. Look at that I sunk your battle ship well it was obsolete thinking at its worse. The idea that the genre actually performs better on the PS3. When in fact the PS3 is like the death knell.

Second lets deal in absolute facts. When it comes to a library if at this moment a game is exclusive there is no proof that it will cease to be so. Keep hopeful ramblings at a minimum, and do not present them as facts. I find it disturbing that you completely assume 360 exclusive titles will go to the PS3. While PS3 exclusive titles will not go to the 360. That is bad logic especially given the fact that Microsoft has a propensity of liberating title exclusivity from Sony. While Sony has not shown the same capacity with Microsoft titles. Your pulling at straws, and if you believe that Microsoft purchased their exclusives you must also concede it is likely that a number of those would be permanent exclusives.

Third you have completely forgotten Mistwalker Microsoft's ace in the hole developer. That has already brought two exclusives to the 360 has a third announced in the pipe, and is probably developing two more titles in house whether original or sequels. To be blunt the developer is probably going to deliver an average of at least two titles per year for the 360 platform.

Forth what constitutes a role playing game is not up for debate. We have what is called popular consent. Titles like Folklore are not considered role playing games they are considered action titles. This is what the critics, and gamers have decided the title is. Who are you to say everyone else is wrong. I wouldn't have included Cry On in the list either being that it is a more action oriented title.

Your statements are a chain of lies. Supported by nothing other then innuendo and hyperbole. The sales performance does not back your statements. In fact they reflect a reality that is the opposite of your assertions. The PS3 has not proven capable of moving a Japanese Role Playing game yet. They cannot even manage to sell role playing games within their own territory. Now if you think developers are oblivious to this your in for a hell of a ride. Microsoft has proven they can move these titles, and are willing to bankroll them.

What you need to know is this the future of the PS3 lineup is not lying on Final Fantasy XIII. The future of the lineup lays with Valkyrie Chronicles. This title performed par for Japan on the PS3 which is the standard abysmal. What needs to happen is for the title to sell really well outside of Japan. Otherwise third party developers will have their verdict. The PS3 cannot move role playing games whereas the 360 can. Once that happens Microsoft will be able to only gather up more exclusive titles not less.



Dodece said:
Dodece quietly walks into the fur ball. Surveys the scene, and decides to enter the fray. Happy in the knowledge that his logic bombardment cannon has a proven track record of obliterating sheer stupidity with little to no residue. Commence the assault.

PS3 total sales 14.48mil

Valkyrie Chronicles sales 140,000
Console attach rate less then 1%
Japan attach rate 6%

Enchanted arms sales 150,000
Console attach rate just over 1%
Japan attach rate no data available

Dark Kingdom sales 120,000
Console attach rate less then 1%
Japan attach rate less then 1%

Oblivion sales 740,000
Console attach rate 5%
Japan attach rate 3%


Xbox 360 total sales 19.88mil

Lost Odyssey total sales 760,000
Console attach rate 5%
Japan attach rate 17%

Blue Dragon total sales 499,000
Console attach rate 2.5%
Japan attach rate 35%

Eternal sonata total sales 260,000
Console attach rate 1%
Japan attach rate 13%

Oblivion total sales 2.51mil
Console attach rate 12.5%
Japan attach rate 13%

Basically what these figures are telling us is that the 360 has the higher sales volume. Has the higher global attach rate. Has the higher attach rate within Japan. Apparently the 360 owners in Japan are more infatuated with the genre then their PS3 brethren which love their RPGs to death literally. Look at that I sunk your battle ship well it was obsolete thinking at its worse. The idea that the genre actually performs better on the PS3. When in fact the PS3 is like the death knell.

Second lets deal in absolute facts. When it comes to a library if at this moment a game is exclusive there is no proof that it will cease to be so. Keep hopeful ramblings at a minimum, and do not present them as facts. I find it disturbing that you completely assume 360 exclusive titles will go to the PS3. While PS3 exclusive titles will not go to the 360. That is bad logic especially given the fact that Microsoft has a propensity of liberating title exclusivity from Sony. While Sony has not shown the same capacity with Microsoft titles. Your pulling at straws, and if you believe that Microsoft purchased their exclusives you must also concede it is likely that a number of those would be permanent exclusives.

Third you have completely forgotten Mistwalker Microsoft's ace in the hole developer. That has already brought two exclusives to the 360 has a third announced in the pipe, and is probably developing two more titles in house whether original or sequels. To be blunt the developer is probably going to deliver an average of at least two titles per year for the 360 platform.

Forth what constitutes a role playing game is not up for debate. We have what is called popular consent. Titles like Folklore are not considered role playing games they are considered action titles. This is what the critics, and gamers have decided the title is. Who are you to say everyone else is wrong. I wouldn't have included Cry On in the list either being that it is a more action oriented title.

Your statements are a chain of lies. Supported by nothing other then innuendo and hyperbole. The sales performance does not back your statements. In fact they reflect a reality that is the opposite of your assertions. The PS3 has not proven capable of moving a Japanese Role Playing game yet. They cannot even manage to sell role playing games within their own territory. Now if you think developers are oblivious to this your in for a hell of a ride. Microsoft has proven they can move these titles, and are willing to bankroll them.

What you need to know is this the future of the PS3 lineup is not lying on Final Fantasy XIII. The future of the lineup lays with Valkyrie Chronicles. This title performed par for Japan on the PS3 which is the standard abysmal. What needs to happen is for the title to sell really well outside of Japan. Otherwise third party developers will have their verdict. The PS3 cannot move role playing games whereas the 360 can. Once that happens Microsoft will be able to only gather up more exclusive titles not less.

Valkyria Chronicles was a niche game, and the other three were either ports of a 360 game or an exclusive that wasn't that good in the first place

 



Yeah I hate when people use VC in their arguments. VC is an SRPG. Look at their sales in general, it's a niche market. If you want to compare VC with something then compare it with Operation Darkness, which unfortunately I couldn't find any sales information on.



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i dont know man. i wanna play Fable 2, infinite undiscovery :(



Forget about Wrpg's cause this thread is about Jrpg's. And, those games u mentioned for the 360 have sold ok, but not how they should have, especially with that many 360's sold. The PS3 is yet to get their big one, [WKC]. Make judgments then. Oh, and how much longer has the 360 been out again?

One things for sure, it will be very interesting indeed to see how well FF13 sells on the 360 compared to the PS3.



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