I'm gunna have to agree with CrazzyMan on this one, if other software bundles counted then MGS4 should as well.

DMeisterJ said: VGC doesn't count MGS4 bundles sales: Could be why we don't see an increase in sales.

ps3 sales have done better than 360 this week in NA, at a much more higher price point i feel that it an awsome achievement unlocked.

i overwhelmingly disagree witht the source viewpoint that mgs4 bundles wont be tracked but wii sports will be tracked.

wii sports isnt a standalone title thats on sale in shops.  but mgs4 is, thas more than enough reason to track it.

i expect more sales for ps3 in NA next week

@deathcape mgs4 is the most spectacular game this gen, and i wont be trading it in, it does come with a free superb online mode, that will be regulary updated with free new content. so its not right to say its single player onlny.

Okay, I think this thing with the bundles are really weird, and correct me if I'm wrong.

You can't buy a Wii console in the US (more exactly NA and Europe too) without getting Wii Sports. On the other hand, with bundles like GT5: Prologue, GTA IV and MGS4 you can still ignore them and buy a console without any games at all. So I guess it's safe to assume that the people who buy one of these bundles also want the game, and therefore they should be accounted for. I mean, in Wii Sports case you really don't have a choice. Right?

As I said, correct me if I'm wrong.

@ whatz3rname, yes, but with MGS 4, it is the only way of getting the 80GB which has BC. Of course in many bundles, there are multiple games, so you may be getting some you dont want

Ds and wii keeps dominating not that didint expect it.

I trust VGChartz over NPD.

Hey, we are now in high summer, before Wii raised the stakes, more than 160k weekly WW in this period wasn't considered bad at all.

what ff13 will now suck? who said that.

well i have to say, that post of yours, is the worst and filthy post i have ever read on vgchartz, i believe you should be reported. "i spit on you" "i spit on your humanity" "filthy swine" <----------- your words.

its obvious that you are the one who is insecure, many people on here come out with outrageous statements (happens day in day out) but at the end of the day its just a bit of fun really, no reason what soever to take others posts as PERSONAL insults as you clearly do.

but what you have said is plain stupid. and totally uncalled for. i think you need to step back into a real world for a change

Yeah it was dumb.....

I think it would've been better said if it was like this

"Xbox is called the 360 because you pick one up and turn 360 degrees and put it back and head for the exit."

I've deleted my post because you made it clear that it offended you.

Its purpose wasn't to offend. It was actually to state my true feelings about how many people are acting.

I completely stand by every word I said in it, and I feel it's the harsh and honest truth. Very realistic, one of the first real things said on this forum lately, imho.

Why then did I simply remove it?

You threatened to report me. Some mods don't like my views, so I gotta try to act right as much as possible. If someone asks me to take something down, I do it.

If you want to remove it from your post, then it will have been completely smoten from this forum, and we will be free from its tretchery. However, if you choose to keep it up, then you probably didn't have much of an issue with it in the beginning, and just choose to show it off in an attempt to humiliate me. As if that epic and wonderful post should be embarassing.

You see, 90 percent of reality is perception.

If you go spouting off about "reporting" someone then several people will read my post that ordinarily wouldn't have, including mods, and at least one person will be influenced by your opinion and report/ban me due to your assertion that its offensive. Basically, if you take a someone to trial for murder, even if there is no evidence against them, there is at least a decent chance that one of the jurors will think the dude did it, but his perception will be changed by the majority vote.

Trust me when I tell you, I'm not embarassed by that post. I don't think it's offensive, and in fact I think it is rather bold, refreshing, humorous, and brave of me to have posted. There's nothing offensive about that post, unless you feel it was aimed at you. I think the post was very clear as to its purpose. I feel that hatemongering flip-flopping fanboys deserve my scorn, and I don't feel that the knowledge of the fact that I want to spit on someone is all that offensive. I want to spit on a lot of people, and do a lot worse things to them as well. It shouldn't bother someone that I feel them worthy of my spit.

As for filthy swine fake words, that's descriptive of words, not the person spouting them.

The post was also a slight parody, which apparently wasn't as obvious as it was set out to be, however this parody was set in reality. In other words, a member like FishyJoe or DMeisterJ might read what I wrote and find it hilarious.

But you, however, have found it offensive. So, odds are, the next person will pick up from you, your interrupretation and assume that it is the correct one, since we look for queues in how to act from the first guy in line, when someone who could have found greatness in the post will be all up in arms appauled, due to your original response.

So, I put this to you sir. Erase my post from your quote. That will do as a way to stop this grevious offense I have lain upon you. I do apologize for it, as you can see. I'm sorry. However, in the future, I trust you will look upon my posts with a little less defensive posturing and instead relax a little on this forum. It isn't a real war, you see, and despite what you are engrained to believe, everyone on the internet isn't out to flame you.