Counting those that kept their console for 6-8 months and no breaking (Hey, some other people ringed before then, so why not) We're at 13/31.

Presuming I didn't count someone twice accidentally. (llewedekdram counted as a no crash, since his family has two xboxes, still going personal.

I had my first X360 die on me in March, around Mar 21st of this year. It was a launch X360, and had over 2000+hrs of gametime on it. I believe only my SNES had more timed logged on it.

I've had other systems die on me (N64 and a PS1), so its not a big deal. I expected my 360 to die between all the problems people had and the fact that I logged sooo many hours on mine. Check my gamerscore profile. I HAVE played a ton of games, and it's undeniable that it withstood alot of intense gaming.

Your better bet is to ask these people for their legit gamercard tags and verify them before you randomly post the numbers. Last time someone did this on another (bigger) website, there were tons of falsified tags and issues with it.

Ah, so space must be my culprit...oh, wait.

As you can see I own a lot of electronics, It's kind of a hobby. I know how to take care of them. That PS2 is a launch console(but has since been replaced with a PS3). Maybe you should stop trying to make excuses for MS's shotty craftsmanship.

EDIT - I'll do you one better. Here is a picture of my gamertag.

Mrstick: This still isn't quite as serious, and I actually wasn't expecting more than 30 responses (Yours makes 32). Also, unless Microsoft has an online search function, I personally have no way of verifying that the gamertag exists.

But let's be fair, those who are known to dislike the failure rates of the 360 or mock it have not posted a failure. Only 1 person has a new account posting here. So either there are liars that other people havn't noticed (Which sucks, as covered by my first post) and I have no reason other than it's the internet to suspect them. Feel free to apply any margin of error.

14/32.

So, since 1 out of every 1,000 360 owners gets three broken consoles in a row, there must be 10,000 xbox360 owners who have had three consecutive broken consoles. So yeah, it is quite possible that this person happens to be one of the 10,000 owners who have had to return their broken 360 three times.... And that is only by your conservative (1/10) estimate of broken consoles. Nobody really knows what it is. It might be 1%, it might be 20%....

And, by your estimates, there are 1,000 owners out there who have had to return their 360 four times, and 100 that have had to return their 360 five times, 10 that returned six times, and there is one unlucky soul who has had SEVEN broken consoles, by your estimates.

It's not the full red ring you have to worry about, it's the three lights.

"Out of the 12 Xbox 360s I own as part of my business, 9 have failed."

From a media reports:

"... the problem isn’t just with launch units. Of the 8 I’ve had so far, only 2 were manufactured in the first three months of launch. The last one I had red-ring on me was manufactured in November of ‘06 - a full year after launch."

8 console fails within a year is simply amazing, if you deduct the time the console couldn't be used at all even more so. IMO on average an expensive console like this should last at least 5 years on average.

I believe when games start to push the 360 harder, the GPUs will get hotter and thus more people may experience failures. The solder melds and motherboard flexes causing disconnect, refurbs will probably be less reliable as the solder after heating will be more prone to repeat failings. IMO Microsoft should provide consumers with a more sturdy product and not replace broken units with refurbs, but with a brand new sturdy product. 

MikeB - as far as I understand, your explanation has been the "consumer accepted" reasoning behind the X360 failure rates - atleast the primary cause. The solder is crap. Honestly, I wonder if MS would sue or take issue up with the manufactuer about those issues, as it's not really a design flaw (unless the engineers somehow didn't allow enough room for enough solder).


www.mygamercard.net has instant access to every tag, provided you input it into thier system. You can verify every tag that's ever been online.

Nice setup I need a new tv soon...