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Kwaad said: The Source I like your sales orders... However I think they will be closer. 360 - 14-16million Wii - 10-14million PS3 - 9-16million I give the PS3 a LARGE margin of error... Mainly because Sales right now are good. (NA). And from what I have read... Europeans are drooling over PS3. (most PS3 fanatics that exist are european... and they dont have one yet.. but have seen all the good) (Trailers for MotorStorm, LAIR, Heavenly Sword) And well... Know all the bad. Yet they are still dominatly PS3. I think America Will sway away from Wii as PS3 gets hardcore games worth buying. And the 360 has nowhere to go buy down in all markets... cept japan... wich you cant go down lower) The PS3 in japan. This is where my biggest number flux comes from. Will they buy it... or not. If Japan starts buying PS3s... I see the 16million. My reason is... NA: Wii has a ~800,000 unit lead. That is the diffrence from being the 'must have' console from 'not' in the holiday season alone. It's not too far behind... and I dont think it's monthly sales are too far behind either for the PS3 to pass the Wii in 2007 in NA. Europe region: The Wii has been met with open arms and alot of questions. Nintendo is shipping the fewest units to this massive region. Sony is planning on a MONSTER launch in March. There's a good chance PS3 might pass Wii in april in europe. Once agian. The biggest market in the world. Japan: The Wii is openly loved. And the PS3 is unwanted. As soon as software starts to show up. Will it change? or not? If the PS3 is accepted I see it selling 5million units in 2007. If it's not. I dont see more than 3. Sony has MASSIVE production. Bigger than anyone else. And Sony is only upping their production. Sony plans on shipping 6million PS3's by the end of march. Nintendo will be lucky to have 6.5million shipped. Yet... Nintendo launched with about 2.5million units. My point on that is... In 4 months... sony would have shipped 4.75million... While Nintendo would be lucky to have shipped... 4million. I am useing shipped because neither are 100% soldout now. Sony can easily ship 15million PS3's by the end of 07. Nintendo will peak out at around 15million as well. If sales keep up thought the year for both Wii and PS3. I think they will both remain soldout for holiday 2007. Wich makes production the most imporant thing. And Sony has that. Microsoft is no-longer producing 360s. They will start agian once their stock has sold-though. Microsoft has the production, but not the demand. My point on the PS3 and Wii is... They are both Highly sought after. Sony has higher production... and a smaller market. I didnt. I think the Wii looks like crap on HDTV... But I know it would look just as bad on a 40inch LCD SDTV. I'm refering to throwing them at the screen. (I didnt. I'm not that crazy) It's only a free game in america. Europe/Japan have to pay for it. When I was saying Nintendo is hurting themselfs. I mean... Europe is the biggest game market right now. They are shipping fewest numbers there... and PS3 will soon be launched. (with games) That is the market that worries me the most for nintendo. And I hate to say this... but European games intrest me the most. Then Japan. My point is... Europe = Biggest game market Europe = smallest number of Wii.
Why is it everytime i read these forums, I read a post from you stating facts out of thin air. Since when is Europe the biggest game market? I mean seriously, everytime you make a new statement you make up some weird fact. Now I'm not saying Europe isn't important, but it's never been a gaming mecca. Don't go around the forums telling people that Europe will be PS3's saviour... Edit - What are european games??



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Actually Europe is now a larger market as a whole than the US. More playstation 2s were sold in Europe overall than the US. Playstation is the largest brand currently in Europe.



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The PS2 was half the price of the PS3 and HDTV penetration is even lower than both the USA and Japan.



The wii will surpass the 360 by Jan 2008. I know my other predictions said sometime in 2008, but seeing MS drop their production and Wii ramping up higher. Oh, yeah Jan 2008 baby.



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I think that the long time sales in europe for the PS# will depend a lot on a potentional price drop. We are getting screwed. The only guy I know that had prebooked a PS3 has desided not to buy it. It is simple to expensive (at least in sweden). I can easily see that the first million shipped in march will be sold out, BUT I don't think parents and so on will buy a gaming system for their kids for 1000 USD! A great consol but for a heafty price tag. I do belive that PS2 will continue to sell well during 2007 powered by Guitarr Hero, and a good price point. Nintendo might be doing something right here in EU if the start shipping some ****ing units. The DS has started to build up the Nintendo brand again with over 10 million sold. So dont count EU as sony country yet. About Wii I don't know when it will surpass Xbox360 it depends on the sales in januari. I think we need a 600k + in USA (if the 360 is around 200k) for it to beat the 360 during 2007. I don't think Halo3 will be a great system seller because I belive those that were waiting for Halo3 to jump onto the ship decided to jump onbord when Gears came out.



 

 

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Microsoft cut production because they wish to sell out all inventory before a price cut. Microsoft has sold roughly 600,000 per month worldwide up until now, and at this continued pace, they will sell through the entire 12,000,000 by the end of June. If Wii sells through every unit they make until June, they will be at 9 million. I personally find it unlikely that Nintendo could pick up 3 million units in 6 months following an XBOX 360 price cut. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A little unfair to call EU the largest gaming market when games ship for different prices, in multiple currencies and languages. Kinda like claiming that Europe is the largest economy in the world......... This is exactly why European launches occur after U.S. and Japanese launches. BUT, for the purpose of this site, more total consoles will be sold in the European continent than any other. The largest gaming markets are 1. United States (we're number 1 until China gets its IP rights under control) 2. Japan (falling, but never below the individual European powers) 3. United Kingdom (well ahead of richer European countries France and Germany) 4. Germany 5. France



Lifetime Sales Prediction - 6/29/2013
Wii U - 38 million
XBOX One - 88 million
Playstation 4 - 145 million

Kwaad you may love european games but you know very little about Europe. First Wii Sport is pack-in game here in Europe ( and Australia ). Second in less than one month ( from 8 to 31 december 2006 ) about 700'000 europeans have bought a Wii. Third here in Italy Wii is still soldout in many shops and the Wii fever is strong. European VG market is sure big but it has some features different from American and japanese markets : 1- Europeans are slow to pass from one system to another because of the price ( european prices are higher than japanese's or american's ). 2- If you look at the Britain monthly charts, you could note that most of european gamers are casual gamers. Here in Europe the Videogames' culture is not so spread for various historical reasons. 3- Price tag is very very important for europeans (Xbox1 was launched in 2002 in Europe with a price tag of around 450 euro and nobody bought it). Ah I forgot : european xbox 360 sales are mediocre. Sure, Europe is dominated by PS2 now because Ps2 has a large variety of games and a good price point but you are nut to think that in about one month ( PS3 launch is set for 23 march ) PS3 can sell over 700K units in Europe. In Europe there will be only the 60GB model. Only few Playstation fanatics will buy a PS3 on launch because of the price point. Few europeans could ( and would ) afford to pay 600 euro + other money for cables and games in a non-holiday season. Sure Sony could ship 1 million PS3 in Europe but will sell to customers very few of them. Do you know that the most successful market for Nintendo DS after Japanese market is Europe ? Europe is a casual market so I think that Wii european sales will surprise many gamers ... Also catofollow you are WRONG to say that Japanese market is a declining one because if you look at 2006 result you can see that Japanese market of nowadays is the strongest in japanese history thanks to Nintendo DS and Wii. Your sentence is very ignorant because 2006 is a record year for hardware and software sales in Japan !!! The only thing declining in Japan is the Playstation market !!!



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celine said:Also catofollow you are WRONG to say that Japanese market is a declining one because if you look at 2006 result you can see that Japanese market of nowadays is the strongest in japanese history thanks to Nintendo DS and Wii. Your sentence is very ignorant because 2006 is a record year for hardware and software sales in Japan !!! The only thing declining in Japan is the Playstation market !!!
1. In relative terms Japan is declining. Japan represents 20% of total worldwide sales, in the past it was a larger number, in the future is will be a smaller number. 2. This record sales year is off the back of DS and PSP. The home console market is certainly shrinking in Japan. You cannot look at total software and hardware sales and conclude that Wii, PS3, and XBOX 360 will surpass sales of their predecessors. So you are right, the Japanese gaming market is growing. The only thing declining in Japan is the home console market!!!



Lifetime Sales Prediction - 6/29/2013
Wii U - 38 million
XBOX One - 88 million
Playstation 4 - 145 million

Hey thanks everybody for this nice thread. Also: European advertised prices, unlike US prices, always include VAT, which will be between 15% and 25% depending on the country. The PS3 (60 GB model) will launch in Sweden at SEK 5999 incl. 25% VAT which equals USD 680 net without VAT (not USD 1000!). In the Euro-zone, the Wii (incl. Wii Sports) is offered at EUR 249 incl. VAT which equals between USD 281 and USD 264 net, depending on the country. So the pricing difference is not as big as it may seem at first sight. It's mostly in the range of a 10% uptick on the US price--plus VAT.



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