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hsrob on 15 July 2008

I'm dissappointed insofar as Nintendo did what they needed to do (keep investors happy)) rather than what they could have done (potentially blown us away with a host of new announcments). Welcome the new face of E3.



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rubido on 15 July 2008
RolStoppable said:
rubido said:
RolStoppable said:

No, it's more that a lot of their first string teams are still heavily working on 360/PS3 games that have begun development two to three years ago. The enormous development times of HD games are preventing the Wii from getting great third party games sooner.

@rubido: E3 isn't over yet.

You have a valid argument of why the big games are not coming for the wii. That makes a lot of sense. But still, it doesn't take away from the fact that big third party games are not coming. You just explained why they are not coming yet and why they will still take a while to come (because they also take time on the wii and they have to start developing them).

Anyway, before going crazy about E3, at least let us wait until it is over. I am sure there will be some more Wii games announced and others will be shown in more detail.

Well, you're right. I'm waiting for more games as it is not over. I guess that peripheral just pissed me off a lot.

 



deathcape on 15 July 2008
RolStoppable said:
jman8 said:
Also, as those 3rd party games remain in development for the PS3/360, both of those consoles become stronger and therefore those devs need Nintendo and its huge user base less. The waiting game for Nintendo has gotten worse than the PS3 waiting game IMO.

How are the 360 and PS3 becoming stronger? They are losing more and more ground to the Wii, 50 % marketshare only seem to be a matter of when, not if.

Besides, most of the games on PS3/360 are so similar in genre and appeal that they cannibalize each other's sales. Combine that with the neverending chase for better graphics on these systems which means that the development costs stay high and more and more third parties will be forced to rethink their strategy.

 

I agree..look at Fallout3...I mean..gars of War...wait..was it Resistance 2?...or Killzone 2...meh...lolwut?

I'm confused...wich is wich? (don't worry..I know) but they look way too damn similar to even like...and if they all come out soon...they won't surpass lifetime sales of about..3-5mil



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windbane on 16 July 2008
deathcape said:
RolStoppable said:
jman8 said:
Also, as those 3rd party games remain in development for the PS3/360, both of those consoles become stronger and therefore those devs need Nintendo and its huge user base less. The waiting game for Nintendo has gotten worse than the PS3 waiting game IMO.

How are the 360 and PS3 becoming stronger? They are losing more and more ground to the Wii, 50 % marketshare only seem to be a matter of when, not if.

Besides, most of the games on PS3/360 are so similar in genre and appeal that they cannibalize each other's sales. Combine that with the neverending chase for better graphics on these systems which means that the development costs stay high and more and more third parties will be forced to rethink their strategy.

 

I agree..look at Fallout3...I mean..gars of War...wait..was it Resistance 2?...or Killzone 2...meh...lolwut?

I'm confused...wich is wich? (don't worry..I know) but they look way too damn similar to even like...and if they all come out soon...they won't surpass lifetime sales of about..3-5mil


Fallout 3 is an RPG. That's a completely different genre. Gears is exclusive the 360, so if it's confused with Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 then so what. All 3 of those have completely different elements as well.

Nintendo hardly showed anything and before E3 we knew of next to nothing. That's a huge gap with no games, especially for a holiday season.



sc94597 on 16 July 2008
windbane said:
deathcape said:
RolStoppable said:
jman8 said:
Also, as those 3rd party games remain in development for the PS3/360, both of those consoles become stronger and therefore those devs need Nintendo and its huge user base less. The waiting game for Nintendo has gotten worse than the PS3 waiting game IMO.

How are the 360 and PS3 becoming stronger? They are losing more and more ground to the Wii, 50 % marketshare only seem to be a matter of when, not if.

Besides, most of the games on PS3/360 are so similar in genre and appeal that they cannibalize each other's sales. Combine that with the neverending chase for better graphics on these systems which means that the development costs stay high and more and more third parties will be forced to rethink their strategy.

 

I agree..look at Fallout3...I mean..gars of War...wait..was it Resistance 2?...or Killzone 2...meh...lolwut?

I'm confused...wich is wich? (don't worry..I know) but they look way too damn similar to even like...and if they all come out soon...they won't surpass lifetime sales of about..3-5mil

Fallout 3 is an RPG. That's a completely different genre. Gears is exclusive the 360, so if it's confused with Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 then so what. All 3 of those have completely different elements as well.

Nintendo hardly showed anything and before E3 we knew of next to nothing. That's a huge gap with no games, especially for a holiday season.

There are about 15 wii games I will be buying this holiday. Not really a gap for me.  Also just becaue nintendo didn't anounce games at E3 doesn't mean they won't anounce them ever.

 



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windbane on 16 July 2008

15? Heh, ok. Name those, perhaps I'll feel differently.

Yeah, they will announce them eventually, and they hinted at future games from the Mario and Zelda team. We all know those are coming, but the fact that there isn't an announcement yet means they are probably very far away.



sc94597 on 16 July 2008
windbane said:
15? Heh, ok. Name those, perhaps I'll feel differently.

Yeah, they will announce them eventually, and they hinted at future games from the Mario and Zelda team. We all know those are coming, but the fact that there isn't an announcement yet means they are probably very far away.Q

Quantum OF Solace(because of controls)

Call Of Duty 5( same as above, might get the pc version though)

Sam & Max season 1( never played the pc version)

Skate It( not me but my brother wants it)

Mushroom Men

Wario Land Shake It

Castlevania Judgement

Star Wars the Force Unleashed

Star Wars the Clone Wars

Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World

Animal Crossing City Folk

Sonic Unleashed( Depends on which version I like more, but I might get both since the wii version is supposedly more 2d)

De BLob

Deadly Creatures

Actually Just short of 15, but there are many I'm on the fence about getting, and there are some games that have yet to have release dates.

 



SnesTea on 16 July 2008
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Well I promise I would make a thread if I didn't see good third party support on the wii, but meh I'm too busy playing mk wii to do that.
@Sc
Don't you remenber our bet about retro announcing games on the E3?

No it was about one of retro's games being a new ip. :) I didn't say when they will be anounced.

 

 

Meh,anyway watch the capcom conference maybe they'll announce something interesting.

 

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sc94597 on 16 July 2008

Oh yeah and I will be getting some games I missed like MKWII. ( I was going to get it, but I'm going to buy a ds lite iand many older games instead. )



SnesTea on 16 July 2008
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
15? Heh, ok. Name those, perhaps I'll feel differently.

Yeah, they will announce them eventually, and they hinted at future games from the Mario and Zelda team. We all know those are coming, but the fact that there isn't an announcement yet means they are probably very far away.Q

Quantum OF Solace(because of controls)

Call Of Duty 5( same as above, might get the pc version though)

Sam & Max season 1( never played the pc version)

Skate It( not me but my brother wants it)

Mushroom Men

Wario Land Shake It

Castlevania Judgement

Star Wars the Force Unleashed

Star Wars the Clone Wars

Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World

Animal Crossing City Folk

Sonic Unleashed( Depends on which version I like more, but I might get both since the wii version is supposedly more 2d)

De BLob

Deadly Creatures

Actually Just short of 15, but there are many I'm on the fence about getting, and there are some games that have yet to have release dates.

 

 

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