We're supposed to be gamers. Fuck sales, were you actually impressed by anything Nintendo showed?

No, we are not supposed to be gamers. There are many hardcore gamers on this site, but there are also people who have different interests as well.

This site is focused on game sales. That is the reason many of the people visit this site, for game sales of ALL kinds.

MS announced that they are getting seconds on a game that won't be out forever, and that beat Sony? Hmm. I don't think so. At least Sony had some interesting new stuff to demonstrate that they are hard at work at making *games* on their console. MS had nothing new whatsoever, except cheap ripoffs of SingStar and Miis. I call that the definition of boring.

Nintendo's presentation was... I dunno. Different. Just went on to show how different the Wii and HD consoles are, as far as I'm concerned. I liked seeing all the new gimmicks they come up with for the Wii. I can't really "place" it in with the other two presentations. It was just different.

Next year (I'm gonna call it that far in advance), MS will announce their new MMO shooter game, with a Halo theme, show a CG trailer, and the crowd will go wild.  Mark my words.

Seriously, there was no winner this year since they all pretty much had nothing special. wow, 256 players online at once. Like Sony can handle or code for that many people. They cant even prevent lag for 16 players.

Saying that video download is huge is like saying xbox 360 is already huge because it has video download for a long time already. I dont how this can be huge since the 360 is getting netflix while PS3 is getting started for something 360 has for a long time already.

You ought to think before posting fanboy posts.

delete this one please

Everyone here is saying that M$ won because they made FF13 multiplatform? some even saying that it's the blow that killed sony? well guess what, I like my final fantasy, but it's a game that appeals to the Japanese gamers far more than it does to the usual western gamer... and Sony still has it as an exclusive in Japan. Sony's biggest game is.. Gran Turismo 5, an eternal exclusive as Polyphony Digital are former members of Sony's development team and the company is nowa subsidiary of Sony. And guess what? it appeals to the western gamer far far more, as you can see by the most selling PS2 game, GT3, which sold like hell in the west. The biggest thing this E3 - is M$'s announcement indeed. But Sony still holds the winning cards, as seen by their games - ones better than M$ has shown, the overall best show - is Sony's. The leader in a year and a half - Sony.

I don't know if I'd characterize any of the three showings as "rubbish" or "crap", but I absolutely agree that all of them would have been at about the same level if not for the FFXIII surprise (assuming MS had had something like MAG instead). 

Sorry shams but I totally disagree that the rest of MS's show was substantially better than Sony's. 

For the games industry, announcing new games is a pretty major player in "future potential", in my opinion.

Call me crazy, but I think Sony actually did, far and away, the best job of this.  I don't see how you can claim Sony "did nothing" with regards to "future potential". in this regard, or how the other two presentations came even close.  Both Nintendo and MS announced products that, they hope, will further their expeditions into "casual gaming", where Sony did took a "your living room" approach, like they always have.  Microsoft's venture into Nintendo's turf (and Sony's, with Lips) seemed... weak.  Nintendo's announcements seemed like they are at least continuing on course, and not flailing, like MS appears to be (suggesting financial trouble in the future, if their current course does not change, which frankly makes sense).

Criticize Sony for staying on course with tactics which have succeeded for years, and Nintendo for keeping on with tactics that they have innovated and proven to work, but I'm going to label MS as the only one who looked to be in trouble.

How big was the FFXIII? It went from being one of the main reasons to own a PS3 instead of 360 in the eyes of Sony fans, to 'just another PS3 game' in the words of Sony fans.

I didn't get a chance to watch Sony's press conference, but I didn't hear about them showing any FFXIII footage. Kind of telling right there.

GOW3 was better than getting a game that the competitor already has.