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brute on 13 July 2008
naraku2099 said:
sc94597 said:
naraku2099 said:
dib8rman said:

I'm a bit suprised, I felt like playing a Zelda and I already played OoT on VC way too many times, so I poped in Twilight Princess and I'm suprised - maybe I was playing OoT for too long, but the graphics on Twilight Princes is amazing, the shadowing, the lighting, the models, the bump maping and morphing everything was there, it made me think of two things; if graphics sell systems then how come the PS2 out sold a system that could produce this kind of immersion in visuals. The next thing was, did we need a Wii to begin with, why didn't Nintendo just employ the same philosophy to the Game Cube and outsell Sony and Microsoft; these graphics are amazing

I mean I'm not certain if the GC version looks worse but if I remember this is a GC port, I'm using components though... either way this game is beyond good enough, it's directly comparable to Mario Galaxy, but I like the feel of the Zelda world more, great job to Nintendo.

 

To answer your question about PS2/GC sales, that would be due to the fact that GameCube wasn't a great deal better graphically than PS2 and PS2 had a much larger library of quality games to play. Sales aren't only driven by graphics, but by overall how much fun a system is. In this generation Wii has been seen as the highest selling console so far when it has graphics only 20% better than GameCube.

I agree with everything until the bolded. Please give some information or evidence to support your claim. The wii is far more than 20% more powerful.

 

 

I don't have any links to a specific source but I recalled a statement from Nintendo saying

"We didn't put a great emphasis on graphics with the Wii" and "The visuals are improved 20% over Nintendo GameCube"

That may not have been their exact words, but it was the point of the statement in response to people saying Nintendo Wii didn't have as large a graphical increase as PlayStation 3 or Xbox360 from their previous generations.

i think they were saying that they didnt concentrate on graphics,i have never read them saying that they are only 20% better

 



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Xponent on 13 July 2008

Graphics are not as important as many presume them to be. The most graphically advanced console in any given generation has never been the most commercially succesful.



naraku2099 on 13 July 2008
wfz said:
naraku2099 said:
dib8rman said:

I'm a bit suprised, I felt like playing a Zelda and I already played OoT on VC way too many times, so I poped in Twilight Princess and I'm suprised - maybe I was playing OoT for too long, but the graphics on Twilight Princes is amazing, the shadowing, the lighting, the models, the bump maping and morphing everything was there, it made me think of two things; if graphics sell systems then how come the PS2 out sold a system that could produce this kind of immersion in visuals. The next thing was, did we need a Wii to begin with, why didn't Nintendo just employ the same philosophy to the Game Cube and outsell Sony and Microsoft; these graphics are amazing

I mean I'm not certain if the GC version looks worse but if I remember this is a GC port, I'm using components though... either way this game is beyond good enough, it's directly comparable to Mario Galaxy, but I like the feel of the Zelda world more, great job to Nintendo.

 

To answer your question about PS2/GC sales, that would be due to the fact that GameCube wasn't a great deal better graphically than PS2 and PS2 had a much larger library of quality games to play. Sales aren't only driven by graphics, but by overall how much fun a system is. In this generation Wii has been seen as the highest selling console so far when it has graphics only 20% better than GameCube.

That's a rather interesting percentage. Do you have a source?

 

Nintendo said it, I believe, before Wii's release. I generally don't make statements based on possibility or rumor. Assuming I remember correctly, it was Nintendo that said that.

 



naraku2099 on 13 July 2008
brute said:
naraku2099 said:
sc94597 said:
naraku2099 said:
dib8rman said:

I'm a bit suprised, I felt like playing a Zelda and I already played OoT on VC way too many times, so I poped in Twilight Princess and I'm suprised - maybe I was playing OoT for too long, but the graphics on Twilight Princes is amazing, the shadowing, the lighting, the models, the bump maping and morphing everything was there, it made me think of two things; if graphics sell systems then how come the PS2 out sold a system that could produce this kind of immersion in visuals. The next thing was, did we need a Wii to begin with, why didn't Nintendo just employ the same philosophy to the Game Cube and outsell Sony and Microsoft; these graphics are amazing

I mean I'm not certain if the GC version looks worse but if I remember this is a GC port, I'm using components though... either way this game is beyond good enough, it's directly comparable to Mario Galaxy, but I like the feel of the Zelda world more, great job to Nintendo.

 

To answer your question about PS2/GC sales, that would be due to the fact that GameCube wasn't a great deal better graphically than PS2 and PS2 had a much larger library of quality games to play. Sales aren't only driven by graphics, but by overall how much fun a system is. In this generation Wii has been seen as the highest selling console so far when it has graphics only 20% better than GameCube.

I agree with everything until the bolded. Please give some information or evidence to support your claim. The wii is far more than 20% more powerful.

 

 

I don't have any links to a specific source but I recalled a statement from Nintendo saying

"We didn't put a great emphasis on graphics with the Wii" and "The visuals are improved 20% over Nintendo GameCube"

That may not have been their exact words, but it was the point of the statement in response to people saying Nintendo Wii didn't have as large a graphical increase as PlayStation 3 or Xbox360 from their previous generations.

i think they were saying that they didnt concentrate on graphics,i have never read them saying that they are only 20% better

 

I'm not saying that's 100% certain but I have a pretty sharp memory and as I recall they said it was 20%.

 



brute on 13 July 2008

^hmm like i said i dont really remember reading that,or was i when they said that wii is 20% less power effeicent then gamecube?



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sc94597 on 13 July 2008
naraku2099 said:
sc94597 said:
naraku2099 said:
dib8rman said:

I'm a bit suprised, I felt like playing a Zelda and I already played OoT on VC way too many times, so I poped in Twilight Princess and I'm suprised - maybe I was playing OoT for too long, but the graphics on Twilight Princes is amazing, the shadowing, the lighting, the models, the bump maping and morphing everything was there, it made me think of two things; if graphics sell systems then how come the PS2 out sold a system that could produce this kind of immersion in visuals. The next thing was, did we need a Wii to begin with, why didn't Nintendo just employ the same philosophy to the Game Cube and outsell Sony and Microsoft; these graphics are amazing

I mean I'm not certain if the GC version looks worse but if I remember this is a GC port, I'm using components though... either way this game is beyond good enough, it's directly comparable to Mario Galaxy, but I like the feel of the Zelda world more, great job to Nintendo.

 

To answer your question about PS2/GC sales, that would be due to the fact that GameCube wasn't a great deal better graphically than PS2 and PS2 had a much larger library of quality games to play. Sales aren't only driven by graphics, but by overall how much fun a system is. In this generation Wii has been seen as the highest selling console so far when it has graphics only 20% better than GameCube.

I agree with everything until the bolded. Please give some information or evidence to support your claim. The wii is far more than 20% more powerful.

 

 

I don't have any links to a specific source but I recalled a statement from Nintendo saying

"We didn't put a great emphasis on graphics with the Wii" and "The visuals are improved 20% over Nintendo GameCube"

That may not have been their exact words, but it was the point of the statement in response to people saying Nintendo Wii didn't have as large a graphical increase as PlayStation 3 or Xbox360 from their previous generations.

"Though technical specifications on the Revolution hardware are not yet available, Nintendo says their new console is only two or three times as powerful as the GameCube."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3140623

I would go with the first thing they say. That would be about 200%-300% more powerful. Even if you look at numbers alon the wii is about 200% more poweful than the gamecube.

 



HappySqurriel on 13 July 2008

Just to use my classic Playstation vs. N64 screenshot comparison, here is Madden 2001 (a late generation game for both platforms):

Playstation

N64:

 

In my opinion this generation represented the most meaningful difference in the appearance of games out of all generations, at a time when the difference between the capabilities of systems was the most important to consumers, and yet the countless non-technical advantages Sony built up for the Playstation were what mattered for consumers.

 

To put it another way, the difference in processing power never really mattered that much to consumers ...



O-D-C on 13 July 2008

ya games like Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, Rogue Squadron and Twilight Princess just dont seem to stop amazing me with what they did on the Gamecube.



wfz on 13 July 2008

I did a google search and I couldn't find anything with Wii, 20%, and Gamecube in it.

I really doubt Nintendo said that, because it sounds inaccurate.



brute on 13 July 2008

^some reason its always been that the console with the weakest graphics has won
ps1/ps2



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