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jman8 said:
Looking at the VG data the DS and PS2 in Japan are no more than 1-2 million units apart with the DS in the lead. And it has appeared that the DS is pretty saturated there, so it's lead isn't going to get much bigger. Maybe 25 million for the DS and 20 million for the PS2 by the time DQIX comes out. A big difference, but not monumental.

The really key question is what is Square doing that would all of a sudden make DQ more popular than it already was. We obviously know very little about the game, but like I said earlier, DQ has always been very conservative and traditional, so I don't see a much larger audience for the game.

On top of all that, what DS RPG has come at all close to selling 4.69 million units before? At least the PS2 had huge selling RPGs before and therefore had a huge RPG fanbase to draw off of.

 

I don't know, there are a lot of Rpgs out (and coming out) for the DS. By the time this Dragon Quest game drops, it might have that RPG userbase.



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Shameless said:
Playing an RPG on a handheld sucks. That should be the reason.

 

I disagree I love playing RPGs on a handheld.  At work, in bed, while I'm driving...

Also, DQMJ has been out for 79 weeks, DQIV just came out in the states.



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jman8 said:

So I was reading a couple of the "FFXIII=Epic Fail" threads, and a number of people mentioned how Dragon Quest IX is going to have absolutely massive sales now that the series is on the DS. I'm not saying the game isn't going to outsell FFXIII, but do people really think DQIX is now going to sell much more than the 4.69 million that DQVIII sold? 

I highly doubt it and here's why. A) The PS2 and DS have similar sized user bases. B) DQ has always been a very conservative traditional RPG series. What has changed about the DQIX that's going to all of a sudden draw in a larger fan base? 

Maybe people think that DQIX is going to make way more money now that it's on the cheaper-to-develop-for DS. Even that thought is flawed b/c the revenue for these games is so much greater than the cost that profit isn't going to all of a sudden double. On top of that, you could sell PS2 games for $50 while DS games typically go for $40 max, which offsets some of the development cost advantage of the DS. 

Your thoughts?

A few notes:

The Nintendo DS has a vastly higher userbase when DQIX launches. The PS2 had 17 million users, the NDS is at 23 million users and growing (could be near 25m when DQIX hits).

Even though DQ is a traditional series, it's also a transcending blockbuster series. Look at NSMB. Nothing earth-shattering about it, but it sold 5 million units in Japan. DQIX can see similar sales, I think, should it be a good game.

Also, the revenue argument is bunk. Square Enix charges more cash in Japan for their carts than normal games. A DS cart of DQIX will most likely go for around 6,000 yen unless something crazy happens (roughly $55 USD).

Lets look at a few key sales indicators for NDS performance of RPGs, versus the PS2:

Nintendo DS Sales   Playstation 2 Sales
Pokemon D/P 5,500,000   Dragon Quest VIII 3,538,000
Dragon Quest M: J 1,458,000   Dragon Quest V 1,611,000
Dragon Quest IV 1,200,000   Super Robot Taisen Impact 632,000
Final Fantasy III 1,008,000   Final Fantasy X-2 1,960,000
Final Fantasy IV 612,000      
Super Robot Taisen 278,000      

Those are just a few numbers that have some sort of relevancy against eachother. At any rate, the DS has held pretty good vs. PS2 remakes (DQ IV vs. DQ V). Again, adding the userbase of the DS, and the fact that the DS had a great track record with Pokemon D/P selling well above DQVIII on PS2, I think we'll see DQIX sell at least 4 million units on the DS...Maybe even 4,500,000.

I think the biggest thing about DQIX is that S-E actually produces enough carts to satisfy user demand. Dragon Quest Monster: Joker (1.4m units) had a shipping collapse for MONTHS. It's sales were stymied for a long time thanks to horrid production capacities either by Square Enix (not ordering enough carts) or Nintendo (not producing enough to safisfy S-E demand).

 

 

 



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DKII said:
Pokemon.

Seconded. Gamers in Japan want their RPGs on handhelds. It will not deter sales. DQ will sell right into the Pokemon series fanbase and the Dragon Quest fanbase. This game is going to be a monster, and have very long legs. I fully expect it to outsell FF XIII by a healthy margin.

 



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DKII said:
Pokemon.

Hmm ...

Thread title:

Why do people think DQIX will sell monumentally better than VIII?

Somehow, your answer doesn't fit .......



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Dolla Dolla said:
DKII said:
Pokemon.

Hmm ...

Thread title:

Why do people think DQIX will sell monumentally better than VIII?

Somehow, your answer doesn't fit .......

He means there's a massive audience for RPG lovers on the DS because of how well Pokemon sells. DQ can pick up that audience, and most likely will.

 



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It has the chance to sell more , but not much more . Its a way to hardcore serie to reach much more monumental sales IMO ...



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Well, I'm sure it'll sell tons and be a huge success. Just how much we'll have to wait and see, DQ's not that big outside of Japan.



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Soriku said:
Let's see...

-DS + Japan = ZOMG
-DS is cheaper than the PS2 at that time
-The DS might introduce new people to DQ. I mean DQ fans can easily buy a DS and people who haven't bought a DQ before will buy DQ IX (I'm one of those people).

FF XIII is going to sell well though. I just think DQ IX will sell better. FF XIII might be the #2 best selling RPG this gen.

 

I agree about Japan, but i'm not so sure about Worldwide sales. I think localizling the IV - VI remakes will help drive sales in NA and EU, but I think DQIX will finish with lifetime sales of around 6 Million, whereas I think FFXIII will reach 7 Million.



Stats87 said:
Soriku said:
Let's see...

-DS + Japan = ZOMG
-DS is cheaper than the PS2 at that time
-The DS might introduce new people to DQ. I mean DQ fans can easily buy a DS and people who haven't bought a DQ before will buy DQ IX (I'm one of those people).

FF XIII is going to sell well though. I just think DQ IX will sell better. FF XIII might be the #2 best selling RPG this gen.

 

I agree about Japan, but i'm not so sure about Worldwide sales. I think localizling the IV - VI remakes will help drive sales in NA and EU, but I think DQIX will finish with lifetime sales of around 6 Million, whereas I think FFXIII will reach 7 Million.

Yeah, I agree, that's a good prediction. 5.5-6.5M for DQIX, and 6.5-7.5M for FFXIII

 



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