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Shio how in the world can you claim that pc gaming is cheaper than console gaming? And before you go off spouting some nonsense about building your own pc and hooking it up to your tv to play on the sofa take some time to remember that 99% of people that own computers probably couldn't name you a single part in their pc. good luck trying to teach them how to build their own computer and then hook it up to their tv.



                                           

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mrstickball said:
shio said:

If talk generally about the RPG genre, then PC easily wins since it has MMORPGs and WRPGs in the back pocket. Oh, and you don't have a PC on your TV? Because I do, and somehow I can lie down in the sofa... strange, isn't it?

PC still doesn't have JRPGs, and the X360 actually offers MMOs (Conan is coming as well as Champions Online).

 

Steam is better, and free.

Still have to pay for the games on Steam, no?

 

And it's also nice that PC games don't even need a disc to play the games. Steam + Cracks = Awesome.

Are you referring to illegal cracks? At any rate, you have XBLA and XBO games that don't require disks either.

Does your 5yo Xbox play 360 games? Because my 5yo PC can play today's games. Heck, even some 8 year old PCs can play recent and awesome games like Audiosurf.

LOL! Mind listing me a few computers under $1,000 5 years ago that can play ANY recent game? My 2001 computer (which was pretty decent, spec wise for 2001) can't play ANYTHING made within the past few years.

With Digital Distribution, PC gamers don't even need to worry about losing discs of their games

Except when draconian DRM comes into play for your favorite digitally downloaded games

And Lucas Arts is going to the shitter... I wonder why? And I also wonder why Capcom (a console company) and EA (biggest money grubber) are more and more keen in supporting PC gaming... maybe they see something most people don't.

Maybe they're inclined to cater to everyone - even PC owners?

PC gaming is cheaper, and you're ignorant to think $1700 is the PC equivalent of a Xbox 360.... try a $400 PC.

PC gaming is NOT cheaper. You buy 1 Xbox 360 for $349, and your set until 2012. You buy 1 PC for $1,000 and your set till 2012 if your lucky. Unless you buy a system for >$2,000 your computer is not going to last very long. I've been a PC gamer since 1995, and know this for a fact. Every PC system I've ever owned (after all, every single person on this forum is a PC gamer in some form or fasion) has been outdated for games within ~3 years. My Xbox 360 that I paid $400 for in 2005 hasn't been out dated, and will last for another 3-4 years. I can't say that about the laptop I bought last year - I can't even play anything on it.

 

 

 

 

 

Nicely done sir.



Shio does the same thing in every 360 thread. He comes in and talks about how you should get a PC instead of a 360 because it's the same price and a gajillion times better!

On Topic: You sound like you should get a Wii since you are leaning that way. If you aren't convinced to get a 360 then don't get it. Everything isn't for everyone!



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@mrstickball

PC still doesn't have JRPGs, and the X360 actually offers MMOs (Conan is coming as well as Champions Online).

There are lots of JRPGs for PC and many of those are hentai games(thats a big win :D).

 

Still have to pay for the games on Steam, no?

Still you don't have to pay every month for steam.

 

Are you referring to illegal cracks? At any rate, you have XBLA and XBO games that don't require disks either.

Well, thats only few games. On PC its every game.

 

LOL! Mind listing me a few computers under $1,000 5 years ago that can play ANY recent game? My 2001 computer (which was pretty decent, spec wise for 2001) can't play ANYTHING made within the past few years.

My 2 years old 600€ computer can play anything there is and with no prob. With new video card it can play games that PS360 players only can dream. (Actually my PC is already much better.)

 

PC gaming is NOT cheaper. You buy 1 Xbox 360 for $349, and your set until 2012. You buy 1 PC for $1,000 and your set till 2012 if your lucky. Unless you buy a system for >$2,000 your computer is not going to last very long. I've been a PC gamer since 1995, and know this for a fact. Every PC system I've ever owned (after all, every single person on this forum is a PC gamer in some form or fasion) has been outdated for games within ~3 years. My Xbox 360 that I paid $400 for in 2005 hasn't been out dated, and will last for another 3-4 years. I can't say that about the laptop I bought last year - I can't even play anything on it.

Why would anyone buy PC that costs $2000? Also 'outdated'? The only way you play your games is all maxed out? You can play crysis with older machines on low. ( I think my comp did run crysis with medium and thats not what PS360 can do. :) )

And as shio said:

you're ignorant to think $1700 is the PC equivalent of a Xbox 360.... try a $400 PC.

Oh, and if its going to be amount of games. There were near 1000 PC titles last year only. Thats something X360 will achieve on this summer when you count all games, I think. :)

 

$400 PC , 2005 and $100 upgrade for each second year = $750 (2012)

$400 X360, 2005 and $50 every year for live gold = $750 (2012)

+ games are a lot cheaper on PC. Here new PS360 games are like 60-70€ and PC games 40-50€. Prices also go down a lot faster on PC. For example after few months crysis did cost only half what it did cost as new. Thats really not how PS360 games go.

 

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Go for PC, if thats not an option its wii time.



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demon123 said:

I was considering buying a second console but am strongly inclined to get the wii as I cannot find anything different that the x-box offers to other consoles.

wii offers unique controllers that give a new and different experience.

The PS3 offers the cheapest blu ray player in the market.

X-Box 360 offers?

XBOX Live

at the moment live has more features and downloadable content than PSN

Gears of War 1

Gears of War 2

Fable 2

Cheaper than PS3 at the moment too.

Its upto you what you get, all 3 consoles have there pros and cons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Deneidez said:

There are lots of JRPGs for PC and many of those are hentai games(thats a big win :D).

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Name a few higher-end ones that can compete with Lost Odyssey, Star Ocean, or a Tales game, please.

 

Well, thats only few games. On PC its every game.

If the game is digitally distributed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 100% of games aren't DD.

 

My 2 years old 600€ computer can play anything there is and with no prob. With new video card it can play games that PS360 players only can dream. (Actually my PC is already much better.)

We're talking 5-8 year old computers. And then you mention that if you dropped a few hudred dollars in a new card, it can play games that PS360 games could only dream (which ones exactly? Crysis? Thats about it). 

 

$400 PC , 2005 and $100 upgrade for each second year = $750 (2012)

$400 X360, 2005 and $50 every year for live gold = $750 (2012)

If you pay for live. And if you actually pay $50/yr for it (for me, its closer to $35)

+ games are a lot cheaper on PC. Here new PS360 games are like 60-70€ and PC games 40-50€. Prices also go down a lot faster on PC. For example after few months crysis did cost only half what it did cost as new. Thats really not how PS360 games go.

 

Right. Unfortunately, games don't tank on the PS3/X360 like they do on PC anymore. 

 

 



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mrstickball said:

PC still doesn't have JRPGs, and the X360 actually offers MMOs (Conan is coming as well as Champions Online).

PC has much more RPGs coming out than X360 and PS3 combined, that's all you need to know.


Still have to pay for the games on Steam, no?

Just like you pay games on Retail. But the Steam itself is free, while XBoc Live Gold isn't.


Are you referring to illegal cracks? At any rate, you have XBLA and XBO games that don't require disks either.

Modding your own game is perfectly legal, if you have a legal copy of the game. The problem is several companies try to fight piracy so they use online activations and whatnot, and those type of DRM are unable to see which copy is legal and which is illegal, so the DRM schemes just assume that whichever is using the crack is illegal.

For singleplayer games, crack is quite viable. And heck, EA's new copy protaction even lets you play the games without Disc from the get go, so you don't even need to use a crack there.


LOL! Mind listing me a few computers under $1,000 5 years ago that can play ANY recent game? My 2001 computer (which was pretty decent, spec wise for 2001) can't play ANYTHING made within the past few years.

My brother's PC (it cost 1000 WITH a monitor). P4 2.5Ghz, 1Gb RAM, 128MB Radeon 9600 something. Off the top of my head, only 4 PC games can't run on his machine: Mass Effect, Crysis, Assassins Creed and DMC4.

One thing I'm sure though is that his PC will still be able to play hundreds of PC games in the next coming years. Indie and Low cost developers are are alot, and many deliver amazing games that have low specs, like: Sins of a Solar Empire, Audiosurf, Trackmania United Forever and Galactic Civilizations II.


Except when draconian DRM comes into play for your favorite digitally downloaded games

You can put Steam in offline mode, which will let you play the games offline. Impulse let's you play the games offline at any time, without any DRM. On GOG.com you can just download the games and play DRM free.

There are some DD services that do have intrusive DRM (EA Store, Direct2Drive) but those services are getting way behind their competition, and will be even more backwards if they keep like this, while Steam has grown almost 200% in the past year.


Maybe they're inclined to cater to everyone - even PC owners?

Capcom are making all their HD games on PC first, then port to Consoles. They are doing it because it's cost effective, however when their ports were terrible, now their top notch and Capcom is even a contributor to PCGA.

EA, on the other hand, is giving alot of amazing PC-centric games such as Dragon Age (PC Bioware RPG), Warhammer Online, Spore and The Sims 3.


PC gaming is NOT cheaper. You buy 1 Xbox 360 for $349, and your set until 2012. You buy 1 PC for $1,000 and your set till 2012 if your lucky. Unless you buy a system for >$2,000 your computer is not going to last very long. I've been a PC gamer since 1995, and know this for a fact. Every PC system I've ever owned (after all, every single person on this forum is a PC gamer in some form or fasion) has been outdated for games within ~3 years. My Xbox 360 that I paid $400 for in 2005 hasn't been out dated, and will last for another 3-4 years. I can't say that about the laptop I bought last year - I can't even play anything on it.

Today, PCs are cheaper than ever. We are reaching a point where graphics become 'obsolete' when factoring both development costs and technology costs. We will reach a point where even PC w/ integrated graphics will be able to run games at a very decent graphical quality.

Even if you don't build your PC, PC games are MUCH Cheaper than console games.. PC games are released 10$-30$ cheaper and drop price much faster, while Console games always sell at 60$. So if you buy 30 games in a entire console generation (5years), on PC you would save 600$-700$ on games alone, and add the money you save from paying XBL Gold for 5 years ($250) and you save 850$-950$.

with those 850$ you would eventually save, you could buy a 800$ PC AND a 150$ and still be like 250$ cheaper than gaming Xbox 360.

 

EDIT: I won't touch this PC vs 360 again. I'm sorry I derailed the thread so much.



JaggedSac said:
mrstickball said:
shio said:

If talk generally about the RPG genre, then PC easily wins since it has MMORPGs and WRPGs in the back pocket. Oh, and you don't have a PC on your TV? Because I do, and somehow I can lie down in the sofa... strange, isn't it?

PC still doesn't have JRPGs, and the X360 actually offers MMOs (Conan is coming as well as Champions Online).

 

Steam is better, and free.

Still have to pay for the games on Steam, no?

 

And it's also nice that PC games don't even need a disc to play the games. Steam + Cracks = Awesome.

Are you referring to illegal cracks? At any rate, you have XBLA and XBO games that don't require disks either.

Does your 5yo Xbox play 360 games? Because my 5yo PC can play today's games. Heck, even some 8 year old PCs can play recent and awesome games like Audiosurf.

LOL! Mind listing me a few computers under $1,000 5 years ago that can play ANY recent game? My 2001 computer (which was pretty decent, spec wise for 2001) can't play ANYTHING made within the past few years.

With Digital Distribution, PC gamers don't even need to worry about losing discs of their games

Except when draconian DRM comes into play for your favorite digitally downloaded games

And Lucas Arts is going to the shitter... I wonder why? And I also wonder why Capcom (a console company) and EA (biggest money grubber) are more and more keen in supporting PC gaming... maybe they see something most people don't.

Maybe they're inclined to cater to everyone - even PC owners?

PC gaming is cheaper, and you're ignorant to think $1700 is the PC equivalent of a Xbox 360.... try a $400 PC.

PC gaming is NOT cheaper. You buy 1 Xbox 360 for $349, and your set until 2012. You buy 1 PC for $1,000 and your set till 2012 if your lucky. Unless you buy a system for >$2,000 your computer is not going to last very long. I've been a PC gamer since 1995, and know this for a fact. Every PC system I've ever owned (after all, every single person on this forum is a PC gamer in some form or fasion) has been outdated for games within ~3 years. My Xbox 360 that I paid $400 for in 2005 hasn't been out dated, and will last for another 3-4 years. I can't say that about the laptop I bought last year - I can't even play anything on it.

 

 

 

 

 

Nicely done sir.

 

I was just gonna say "pwnd" but there is a 4 word limit.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.