Why?  It's been discussed before, but it has happened again and I'm confused.  I was looking at gamerankings when I came across Resident Evil 4 Wii edition.  All I've been hearing is that this is the "definitive" version because the controls actually improve the gameplay. But....a review from Eurogamer who gave it a 7/10 says, "Because it doesn't feature an improved control scheme, it features the opposite: a worse control scheme."  Then in complete contrast CVG UK says, "The pointer calibration here is so sharp you could cut yourself with it: even compared with Nintendo's own gunwork in the Duck Hunt-styled passage of Wii Play, it feels like there's greater precision in Capcom's handiwork."  They gave it 93% out of 100.

I personally think that in this case, Eurogamer is just gonna be one of those sites that gives a low review to a game that is going to receive an overall positive reception granted 7/10 is not that bad. But his whole point was the game is still good for what it is, but it is now not as good because of the Wii controls.  From previews, I understand that the controls are extremely precise, so my guess is that the reviewer from Eurogamer must REALLY suck at the game if he couldn't aim good. I mean the guy even when on to say, "And if you can get your head round the game's appearance."   I mean come on, we know the game is dated, but it's not like even now re4 is so ugly it's hard to look at.  It's sad that there are still retards who's views on games are still used. Jack Thompson anyone.

Dude if you go to Gamespot you will puke. I have not got over Wario Ware scoring higher than Zelda and being the best game for Wii (9.1). By the time a Wii game gets a 9 in those major game sites the war will be over.

I know. I found it weird. I have seen different sites give games low scores, and some high scores, but they all said the same stuff. I found this review to be very weird. 3 say it improves, 1 says it makes it worse. THAT is the best representation of mixed reviews.

Sure, Wii Play and Wii Sports get low scores, but the sites agree that they are fun. Same with Mario Party 8. But for some sites to say that the controls completely improve the gameplay and one to say that they make it absolutely worse....

ItsaMii said: Dude if you go to Gamespot you will puke. I have not got over Wario Ware scoring higher than Zelda and being the best game for Wii (9.1). By the time a Wii game gets a 9 in those major game sites the war will be over.

What I still don't get about that review for TP is that they gave the gamecube score .1 higher than the wii version, but stated in their own review that the wii version was better. WTF?

Eurogamer is one of the best sites out there ,but they are very hard giving scores .

Curiosly ,Computer and Video Games (the printed mag comes from 1978 no less ) is also one of the more prestigious out there being the printed edition the traditional videogames mag in UK .

Ok, I know this one isn't Wii and it's really old, but I can never get over the stupidity of this review from Gamers Europe for SSB Melee.

Diomedes1976 said: Eurogamer is one of the best sites out there ,but they are very hard giving scores . Curiosly ,Computer and Video Games (the printed mag comes from 1978 no less ) is also one of the more prestigious out there being the printed edition the traditional videogames mag in UK .

I don't know. He talks about the pointer not being steady, that sounds like he had shaky hands. And when the overall view is that the controls improve the game and this guy is saying it made the game worse because it was too hard for him sounds like a lack of gaming talent to me.

1. I completely agree that Eurogamer sucks.  Even though I don't like reviews, I do tend to read them for games that I've played just because I like to see what they say.  Most things I read from Eurogamer is just trash.
2. I don't mind a game getting a low score, but I feel like they should justify it.  In Eurogamer's case with RE4, they at least justified the score by saying they didn't like the control scheme.  I'm completely cool with them docking the score because they at least game them a reason.  I may or may not agree with them (I'll know tomorrow) but they gave me a reason.  With Gamespot's review for Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree, they loved the game, the only negative they had to see was about having to pass the remote in some of the multiplayer modes, and they gave it a 7.3.  That's just insane.  I understand the game probably doesn't anywhere near a 9, but when you have only one negative thing to say about the game, it doesn't get a 7.3.  Oh, and there's also the fact they didn't even really spend much time with the game at all.

twesterm said: I don't mind a game getting a low score, but I feel like they should justify it.  In Eurogamer's case with RE4, they at least justified the score by saying they didn't like the control scheme.  I'm completely cool with them docking the score because they at least game them a reason.  I may or may not agree with them (I'll know tomorrow) but they gave me a reason.  With Gamespot's review for Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree, they loved the game, the only negative they had to see was about having to pass the remote in some of the multiplayer modes, and they gave it a 7.3.  That's just insane.  I understand the game probably doesn't anywhere near a 9, but when you have only one negative thing to say about the game, it doesn't get a 7.3.  Oh, and there's also the fact they didn't even really spend much time with the game at all.

Yes, but if your going to justify it, at least have a valid justification.  If he didn't like the control scheme, that's one thing, but he says the controls were bad(as in they were poorly implemented and didn't work).  If the pointer doesn't point, he would have a case. 

It's the same thing with the Melee review I posted here.  There saying things that are not true.  I just don't want to here, I hate the deadly slow framerate but the game runs at a consistent 60fps.

diamuerto said: ItsaMii said: Dude if you go to Gamespot you will puke. I have not got over Wario Ware scoring higher than Zelda and being the best game for Wii (9.1). By the time a Wii game gets a 9 in those major game sites the war will be over. What I still don't get about that review for TP is that they gave the gamecube score .1 higher than the wii version, but stated in their own review that the wii version was better. WTF?

It is simple really. He is reviewing the Wii not the game. 

 

Like most other Zelda games, Twilight Princess is a retelling of the same basic tale, though this one is not without its twists. There's a princess named Zelda, a land called Hyrule, and a world that's on the verge of destruction if you don't do something to save it.

The Wii was designed with relatively modest graphical capabilities, at least from a technical perspective. So if you spend a lot of time trying to pick apart the visuals of Twilight Princess, you'd notice plenty of low-res textures and jagged edges.

But normally you can just keep on shaking the Wii Remote like a maniac and come out on top against most enemies. There's no finesse to the way the Wii Remote is used, and at times you'll wish that you could just hit a button to swing the sword instead of dealing with all the motion-sensing nonsense. This is especially true in the rare cases that require you to time your sword swings properly, as well as once you start learning a few extra moves, like the shield bash, which is done by shoving the Nunchuk controller forward. Most of the time, performing this move resulted in a spin attack. The combat controls using the Wii Remote may feel somewhat different from past games, but it doesn't draw you into the experience any more than using a standard controller would, and at worst, it's imprecise.

Given that the Wii is running discs on a greater storage capacity than Nintendo games have had in the past, and advances in standards for video game music, it's disappointing that the series hasn't finally moved to full digital recordings. After all, these songs are worthy of an orchestra. Similarly, it's surprising that the game's story is conveyed through text and text alone. Link has always been that sort of blank-slate character that doesn't speak in games, and he doesn't have any lines in Twilight Princess, either. That's a fine stylistic choice, but there's plenty of dialogue in the game coming from other characters, and in this day and age, for a game whose story is as much a factor as this one's is, it should have all been spoken.

It generally sounds fine, but the game also makes frequent use of the speaker on the Wii Remote, piping a lot of combat noises through it. Unfortunately, this speaker is cheap and tinny, making everything that comes out of it sound distorted and poor. The audio coming through this speaker also chops up fairly frequently, as if it can't maintain a decent connection with the console.

  Objectively speaking, it's still a little disappointing that the series hasn't evolved much at all with this latest installment.

 

 

 They said the sounds were cheap on the wiimote and that graphics were not next generation. Control using Wiimote is not precise. There is no excuse for lack of spoken dialogue or orchestra having so much storage space in Wii media. The game get 8 for control, 9 for looks and 7 (!!!) for sound.  None of this should apply for the GC version right? No. It gets 8, 9 and 8 in the same categories.

 

 

Graphically, the GameCube version is roughly identical to the Wii release. The main difference comes from a lack of 16:9 widescreen support, resulting in many of the story sequences being letterboxed when viewed in 4:3. However, the game does have 480p support. If you're properly equipped with a GameCube component cable and a TV capable of handling the higher resolution, you'll get a slightly cleaner image. The combat controls are more conventional on the GameCube, since you won't be shaking the controller around to attack (though if you've already played the Wii version, expect to feel dumb when you start to shake your WaveBird and wonder why nothing's happening), but the Wii controls actually end up feeling more precise in a direct comparison. It's easier and faster to aim your arrows, boomerang, or other targeted items using the Wii Remote. It's easier to move the camera around with the Wii Remote, too. While the GameCube controller is more precise when it comes to swinging your sword, the easier aiming and faster access to the spin attack make the Wii version's combat controls superior, even though they have a few issues of their own.

You can't go wrong with either version of the game, but if you're still trying to decide, the Wii version is just a bit better.

If you spend a lot of time trying to pick apart the visuals of Twilight Princess, you'd notice plenty of low-res textures and jagged edges. But that would be missing the point.

When you consider the storage limitations that are inherent to the GameCube, it's easy to see why the game went this route and also why it relies on text and text alone to convey its epic story. The rest of Twilight Princess' sound is about what you'd expect, and it's using plenty of the same sort of sound effects and battle yelps that the series has relied on, which again will tap into fans' nostalgia for the series.

 

 

Suming up. Wi version sucks because it is not next generation and a direct port from GC. GC version is not good enough because it does not support some next generation features the Wii have (even though the game is one of the best looking on last gen). Wii controls are imprecise and gimmick at best, not as good as playing on a GC controller. Gameplay on Wii is worse on combat. GC version is worst than Wii. Things go smoother on Wii combat. Those claims contradict each other. As for sound, Wii sucks for cheap wiimote speaker that the GC version lacks. Wii lose points for having media storage and lacking orchestrated sound and voices. The GC loses points for lacking media storage for these features (WTF). Again a big FUCKING contradiction. Where is Phoenix Wright at times like this. Not to mention some GC bullying and minor lies. RE4 had a lot of spoken dialogue and so did other GC games that were on 1 disc only. If Zelda have no voice it was for style purposes not laziness. I do not see people bullying Shadow of Colossus for this.
 The best part of the review is Jeff telling us Wii version is better. Lower score <check>, more critics <check>, best and worst control of the two <check>, logic <no>.