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The Ghost of RubangB said:

Here's a fact.

Whether or not you believe humans are causing it, it can kill off the entire human race.

Do you think we should try to stop it or not?

 

No.  There are actual environmental problems that we should be concerned with.



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Don't worry, taking millions of barrels of oil, which are for the most part hydroCARBONS and which were taken out of the atmospheric carbon equation millions of years ago, per day and then burning them, thus releasing stored carbon into the atmosphere can't possibly have an impact. (Sarcasm)

I take small steps to help the environment which when added up greatly reduce my carbon and energy footprint. Even if you don't believe in climate change ( my prefered term) those same steps SAVE ME MONEY in the long run:
- eat less meat (the wasted energy, water and shit production involved in meat is incredible. How many pounds of grain does a cow need to eat so you can eat a pound of steak? Enough to feel many humains with grains.)
-change your lightbulbs to CFLs (Handle them with care, since they have mercury. less mercury then what is emited by a powerplant to power the extra energy incandescant bulbs use, but the mercury will be localised where you break it)
- get electronic and programable thermostats and program your heating and cooling a little lower and a little higher respectively;
- get a timer for your pool filter. Mine only works 6 hours per day;
- turn things off when you won't be needing them, including computers. even cars can be switched off if you will idle for more then 10 seconds;
- walk, rollerblade, bike places. It's good for you too.
- Telecommute when you can, carpool when you can't telecommunicate;
-buy energystar appliances;
- plant a tree

All easy life changes are good for the environment, are good for me and SAVE ME MONEY in the long run.



MrBubbles said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:

Here's a fact.

Whether or not you believe humans are causing it, it can kill off the entire human race.

Do you think we should try to stop it or not?

 

No. There are actual environmental problems that we should be concerned with.

 

Yes! Again! lol i need to add you as a friend. Al Gore once said fighting global warming will also fight against thousands of cases of malaria and misquito borne illness... heres a thought we could spend 1% of what they want to spend of fighting "global warming" and vaccinate, improve health/living conditions, and save MILLIONS of lives. Hmm you decide 2008!



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mr.elite said:
its fake. get your info from somewhere other then the tv and al gore.

Question- why did the founder of THE WEATHER CHANNEL want to sue al gore?

Answer- for making up global warming.

How come 40 years ago people were talking about global cooling. They wanted to put soot on the ice caps to speed up melting. Dont believe me? Look it up. Global warming has one purpose, acquiring grant money for scientists/meteorologists who got their PH.D for weather. Without a problem their degree is shit. And CO2 from humans... dont get me started, humans account for .01% of the co2 in the atmosphere. Again don't believe me look it up.

The whole topic is ridiculous. And to the guy who said "why dispute whats fact" or w/e in like the second or third post. It isnt a proven fact, dont tell lies, it is a theory at best. Oh yea, the temperature of the Atlantic ocean is ... get this COOLING...

Do some research before you respond to me or i'll light you up again

Doctors in the 40's used to endorse certain brands of cigarettes because they were better for you then their competitors. Science sometimes makes advances that turns previous science on its head.



Dogs Rule said:
mr.elite said:
its fake. get your info from somewhere other then the tv and al gore.

Question- why did the founder of THE WEATHER CHANNEL want to sue al gore?

Answer- for making up global warming.

How come 40 years ago people were talking about global cooling. They wanted to put soot on the ice caps to speed up melting. Dont believe me? Look it up. Global warming has one purpose, acquiring grant money for scientists/meteorologists who got their PH.D for weather. Without a problem their degree is shit. And CO2 from humans... dont get me started, humans account for .01% of the co2 in the atmosphere. Again don't believe me look it up.

The whole topic is ridiculous. And to the guy who said "why dispute whats fact" or w/e in like the second or third post. It isnt a proven fact, dont tell lies, it is a theory at best. Oh yea, the temperature of the Atlantic ocean is ... get this COOLING...

Do some research before you respond to me or i'll light you up again

Doctors in the 40's used to endorse certain brands of cigarettes because they were better for you then their competitors. Science sometimes makes advances that turns previous science on its head.

 

I bet you were like "man i just owned him" when really you support my point. Think about it.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:

Here's a fact.

Whether or not you believe humans are causing it, it can kill off the entire human race.

Do you think we should try to stop it or not?

 

Yeah, like global cooling was supposed to kill the entire human race back then...

It's natural, it's not the end of the world.

 

But if we keep doing all the crap we are doing we will cause the end of the world by other means...




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The Ghost of RubangB said:

Here's a fact.

Whether or not you believe humans are causing it, it can kill off the entire human race.

Do you think we should try to stop it or not?

 

I didn't know that was a fact. How do you propose we stop it? We can always go with my favorite solution that I got from Futurama, go drill a huge block of ice from a comet and drop it in the ocean.



mr.elite said:
Dogs Rule said:
mr.elite said:
its fake. get your info from somewhere other then the tv and al gore.

Question- why did the founder of THE WEATHER CHANNEL want to sue al gore?

Answer- for making up global warming.

How come 40 years ago people were talking about global cooling. They wanted to put soot on the ice caps to speed up melting. Dont believe me? Look it up. Global warming has one purpose, acquiring grant money for scientists/meteorologists who got their PH.D for weather. Without a problem their degree is shit. And CO2 from humans... dont get me started, humans account for .01% of the co2 in the atmosphere. Again don't believe me look it up.

The whole topic is ridiculous. And to the guy who said "why dispute whats fact" or w/e in like the second or third post. It isnt a proven fact, dont tell lies, it is a theory at best. Oh yea, the temperature of the Atlantic ocean is ... get this COOLING...

Do some research before you respond to me or i'll light you up again

Doctors in the 40's used to endorse certain brands of cigarettes because they were better for you then their competitors. Science sometimes makes advances that turns previous science on its head.

 

I bet you were like "man i just owned him" when really you support my point. Think about it.

 

Get out of my head. ;) Actually, to rephrase: science is not like religious doctrine. It is possible for an old hypothesis to be proven incorrect without us throwing all climate science out the window because some people in the 60's talked about climate cooling.

EDIT: By "science is not like religious doctrine" , I mean that it is not set in stone in that the term "science" in this context is generally understood as being "scientific consensus." Scientific consensus can evolve and change over time even to the point of completely disproving former scientific consensus.

One cannot use a mistake in the past (the global cooling hypothesis) to disprove today's hypothesis of global climate change. For one, we have come a long way from a technological perspective. More importantly though, "the global cooling hypothesis" was NOT a scientific consensus. The Global climate change hypothesis IS a scientific consensus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Scientific_consensus



I bet you guys didn't know that the antarctic is actually growing did you? Nope, the media likes to focus on the arctic shrinking.

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet.htm

^^^lots of ice^^^



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wfz said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:

Here's a fact.

Whether or not you believe humans are causing it, it can kill off the entire human race.

Do you think we should try to stop it or not?

 

I didn't know that was a fact. How do you propose we stop it? We can always go with my favorite solution that I got from Futurama, go drill a huge block of ice from a comet and drop it in the ocean.


A collective WE will not stop it, but many individuals, who do progressively take small steps to reduce their evergy waste and who inspire others to do the same can have an impact. If not an environmental impact at least and economic one, by saving money.