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MANUELF on 05 July 2008

yes, the TGS will be HUGE for Wii and DS.



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BengaBenga on 05 July 2008

Soriku: Shiren sold just as much as Valkyrie. It's not very hard to predict which of those two gained Sega more money...



Kasz216 on 05 July 2008
BengaBenga said:
Soriku: Shiren sold just as much as Valkyrie. It's not very hard to predict which of those two gained Sega more money...

Shame too... Valkrie looks awesome... and by all accounts it has an improved "Future Tactics" type battle sytem.  Which is a battle system i never thought i'd see again.

So cool.

Same thing happened with Folklore.  It used the Lost Kingdoms battle system i never thought i'd see again.

PS3 needs an improved "Trapt" battle system game too... that was a fun game that could use some tweaks.



CrazzyMan on 05 July 2008

@TalonMan, wait, WHAT??? Are you mod-fanboy? Or you stay in DENIAL?

We speak about 3rd party Japan developers.

sc94597 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Nintendo doesnt attend TGS usually ,so I woulndt expect too many announcements there.Besides ,most hardcore Wii games have flopped badly so I doubt the developers are eager to put too much effort behind it.As it is cheap to develop for it will get some games ,specially given the casual market there is right now.And some spin offs of major franchises.

Tell me some hardcore games on the ps3/360 that sold well in Japan that aren't MGS4. ALso tell me some hardcore games that flopped in japan on the wii from third parties.

3rd party games:

http://vgchartz.com/japtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&maker=&disp=Japanese+Name&boxartz=1
1) Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou  Square Enix 502,193
2) Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles  Capcom 267,539
3) Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Namco Bandai 244,432 

1) Shin Sangoku Musou 5  Koei 410,624
2) World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008  Konami 318,514
3) Devil May Cry 4  Capcom 307,028
4) Gundam Musou  Koei 298,005
5) Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! Sega 273,341

Notice:
Wii  - 6,36 mln.
PS3 - 2,25 mln.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

sc94597 on 05 July 2008
CrazzyMan said:

@TalonMan, wait, WHAT??? Are you mod-fanboy? Or you stay in DENIAL?

We speak about 3rd party Japan developers.

sc94597 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Nintendo doesnt attend TGS usually ,so I woulndt expect too many announcements there.Besides ,most hardcore Wii games have flopped badly so I doubt the developers are eager to put too much effort behind it.As it is cheap to develop for it will get some games ,specially given the casual market there is right now.And some spin offs of major franchises.

Tell me some hardcore games on the ps3/360 that sold well in Japan that aren't MGS4. ALso tell me some hardcore games that flopped in japan on the wii from third parties.

3rd party games:

http://vgchartz.com/japtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&maker=&disp=Japanese+Name&boxartz=1
1) Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou  Square Enix 502,193
2) Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles  Capcom 267,539
3) Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Namco Bandai 244,432 

1) Shin Sangoku Musou 5  Koei 410,624
2) World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008  Konami 318,514
3) Devil May Cry 4  Capcom 307,028
4) Gundam Musou  Koei 298,005
5) Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! Sega 273,341

Notice:
Wii  - 6,36 mln.
PS3 - 2,25 mln.

Considering most ps3 games cost 2-4 times more than wii games to develop that is great sales, and means that the wii will get more support. Not to mention the more the wii's install base increases, the more games will sell. The wii's install base is increasing far more rapidly than the ps3s, and so should software sales. So low developementcost+ greater than or equal sales to the ps3=Wii Japanese 3rd party support.

 



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BengaBenga on 05 July 2008
CrazzyMan said:

@TalonMan, wait, WHAT??? Are you mod-fanboy? Or you stay in DENIAL?

We speak about 3rd party Japan developers.

sc94597 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Nintendo doesnt attend TGS usually ,so I woulndt expect too many announcements there.Besides ,most hardcore Wii games have flopped badly so I doubt the developers are eager to put too much effort behind it.As it is cheap to develop for it will get some games ,specially given the casual market there is right now.And some spin offs of major franchises.

Tell me some hardcore games on the ps3/360 that sold well in Japan that aren't MGS4. ALso tell me some hardcore games that flopped in japan on the wii from third parties.

3rd party games:

http://vgchartz.com/japtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&maker=&disp=Japanese+Name&boxartz=1
1) Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou  Square Enix 502,193
2) Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles  Capcom 267,539
3) Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Namco Bandai 244,432 

1) Shin Sangoku Musou 5  Koei 410,624
2) World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008  Konami 318,514
3) Devil May Cry 4  Capcom 307,028
4) Gundam Musou  Koei 298,005
5) Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! Sega 273,341

Notice:
Wii  - 6,36 mln.
PS3 - 2,25 mln.

And you're trying to prove what?

That the PS3 has seen the sequels to some of the best sold PS2 franchises, but didn't do much?
That if you put a well known franchise, even if it's a spin off, on Wii it will sell more than on PS3?
That 3rd party sales on Wii sell above their expectations and PS3 ones below?

 

 

 



CrazzyMan on 05 July 2008

@BengaBenga, PS3 is MORE hardcore then the Wii.
PS3 games will have spike, just when PS3 HW will gain it. =)

So low developementcost+ greater than or equal sales to the ps3=Wii Japanese 3rd party support.
That the point. Or do you see "big,true" Japanese support of PS3? :)
That 3rd party sales on Wii sell above their expectations and PS3 ones below?
Tales of Symphonia 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 say hi. ;)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Kasz216 on 05 July 2008
CrazzyMan said:

@TalonMan, wait, WHAT??? Are you mod-fanboy? Or you stay in DENIAL?

We speak about 3rd party Japan developers.

sc94597 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Nintendo doesnt attend TGS usually ,so I woulndt expect too many announcements there.Besides ,most hardcore Wii games have flopped badly so I doubt the developers are eager to put too much effort behind it.As it is cheap to develop for it will get some games ,specially given the casual market there is right now.And some spin offs of major franchises.

Tell me some hardcore games on the ps3/360 that sold well in Japan that aren't MGS4. ALso tell me some hardcore games that flopped in japan on the wii from third parties.

3rd party games:

http://vgchartz.com/japtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&maker=&disp=Japanese+Name&boxartz=1
1) Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou Square Enix 502,193
2) Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles Capcom 267,539
3) Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Namco Bandai 244,432

1) Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Koei 410,624
2) World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 Konami 318,514
3) Devil May Cry 4 Capcom 307,028
4) Gundam Musou Koei 298,005
5) Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! Sega 273,341

Notice:
Wii - 6,36 mln.
PS3 - 2,25 mln.

You consider the Dynasty warriors series and Devil May Cry as hardcore?

Or Winning Eleven? 1-4 on the list aren't hardcore Crazzy.

Neither is Dragon Ball Z for that matter.

 



sc94597 on 05 July 2008
CrazzyMan said:

@BengaBenga, PS3 is MORE hardcore then the Wii.
PS3 games will have spike, just when PS3 HW will gain it. =)

So low developementcost+ greater than or equal sales to the ps3=Wii Japanese 3rd party support.
That the point. Or do you see "big,true" Japanese support of PS3? :)
That 3rd party sales on Wii sell above their expectations and PS3 ones below?
Tales of Symphonia 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 say hi. ;)

Um tos sold about the same as its predecessor and is far from done selling. MGS4 will most likely end its life in 600k. About 300k less than its predecessor. SO which is bigger, 30k or 300k.



NJ5 on 05 July 2008
CrazzyMan said:

@BengaBenga, PS3 is MORE hardcore then the Wii.
PS3 games will have spike, just when PS3 HW will gain it. =)

So low developementcost+ greater than or equal sales to the ps3=Wii Japanese 3rd party support.
That the point. Or do you see "big,true" Japanese support of PS3? :)
That 3rd party sales on Wii sell above their expectations and PS3 ones below?
Tales of Symphonia 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 say hi. ;)

CrazzyMan, I already owned you the other day when you started this same argument. Isn't once enough?

Go back to your hole and stop trolling the thread as a moderator already warned you to do.

 



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